NY Governor vetoes ban on noncompete clauses, waters down LLC transparency bill
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However, another comment in this thread suggests that the law in question requires the compensation be the same as that of the job itself, which avoids this issue.
If it's the only way to get a job, that's the incentive. If the whole industry does it, or at least the vast majority, then workers don't have an actual choice.
The answer in an environment with a ban on non-competes is “they’d either have legal recourse if someone tried to write them a contract with that term, or the term would be treated as non-enforceable and therefore harmless”.
In the current environment, broadly speaking, most employees wouldn’t have leverage to turn such a term down, and generally don’t.
The most places like McDonalds used to do was to force franchise owners to sign a sort of non-compete to prevent poaching each other's employees. That practice was ended half a decade ago and now even franchise owners don't have to sign non-competes, let alone low-wage employees.
[1] - https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/28/joe-biden/...
Can they, though? This fight is moztly not about the spoiled tech sector.
I'm pretty sure they aren't gonna get literally any other job. Sign it or no paycheck.
Also the non-compete clause need to actually protect some company knowledge, a non-compete clause on a bus driver will never be enforceable, regardless on how much extra the company pays.
I personally know only one person with a current non compete, he worked at some niche company, that paid a few tens of thousands of euros for specialization in one specific niche branch and one specific software. He can still work in the same industry, just not with that specific software, and he got 75% of his previous paycheck for (i think) 18 months (the length of the noncompete) + of course the current paycheck he earns in a similar industry (with obviously a different software solution).
The noncompetes are usually a case of having to invest a lot to educate a worker in the first place (again, niche stuff). General stuff (like a php programmer) would never get a noncompete, because the courses are cheap, anyone can learn that themself, and the monthly payouts are more expensive than udemy courses. On the other hand, there is some abuse, where people get employed, especially in the public sector, to get the expensive (cisco, redhat, microsoft,...) certificates paid by the employer and then quit and do freelance work.
On the other hand I have no idea how to deal with a situation where a small tech company develops some highly specialised expertise in house only to have all their employees poached over night by a far bigger competitor that can pay them a salary or signing bonus that would be uneconomical for the smaller company to match.
How would you discourage this kind of hostile takeover?
I guess you could get a job in the non-compete window, but only be trained by the next employer while the previous one paid. That seems complicated and silly though.
The answer is the same.
The one catch is that 50%+ of your compensation in these jobs is typically a yearly bonus which is not paid during your non-compete period.
But pretty much everyone knows this and socks away some money to limit the shock. The system works well both for employees and companies. There's some grumbling here and there but legislation like the one proposed in NYC would have needlessly broken a system that works pretty well.
Makes sense. I assume there is a pool all the finance people pay into every month that covers all the people who don't work in finance and are subject to non-competes?
The hiring firm pays for, but cannot use, the hired person.
The system needs to be broken. What works well is paying and treating employees well enough so that they do not want to leave and go to a competitor, like businesses in California have to do.
> The system needs to be broken
Why?
I personally wouldn’t mind a 6 month NY hedge fund style gardening leave each time I switch to a different job.
The opposite, here in CA you can switch jobs at will because noncompetes are illegal. That's the primary reason I can't imagine working anywhere else.
There are only a handful of traders and PM’s at successful firms that make such high comps.
The compensation of rank and file employees are quite similar to working in tech but are encumbered with huge risks following termination of employment. The firms I have worked at apply non-competes down to administrative employees who aren’t even involved in the business and have no valuable proprietary knowledge.
For employees whose residency status is tied to employment, these non-competes can result in having to leave the country.
For those with families, they are unable to pursue their primary profession and lose healthcare coverage or pay massively increased premiums.
You don’t understand the population these agreements harm or understand the effects they have.
It's bad for the economy because it slows the circulation of ideas. A part of why there's been so much technological growth in Silicon Valley is because ideas could move between companies much faster.
For some people.
For other people, they just can't work in the industry without fear of a lawsuit and don't get compensated at all. This is much more common when you start looking at lower paid people - sometimes fast food workers can't get another foodservice job because of these.
The system works great for these companies because they make it harder for their employees to get better jobs. It doesn't work so well for the employees in these cases.
there should not be any non-competes for job levels for which the skill is mostly commodities. Non-competes should be only for companies hiring a specific skill, and their working in said company would allow them to garner knowledge that can help a competitor - thus a non-compete. And it needs to be paid for.
If a company is found to be abusing it to ensure their employee cannot be mobile (for wage competitiveness), then the law should go down hard on them.
> While the prevalence of the practice may vary by region, one labor study published in April estimated that around one in six people working in food preparation or service jobs was bound by a non-compete agreement, according to a survey of nearly 67,000 workers.
The news article is from 2021 [1], but the one page in the labor study mentioning food services uses data from 2017 [2]. (The paper is on SSRN and there is no open-access mark, but I was able to open the PDF. Check page 51 out of 61 if you're able to open it.) There's still a problem even if only non-fast-food restaurants use non-competes, and a ban on non-competes should cover all restaurants at the very least.
Biden signed an executive order asking the FTC to consider banning non-competes, though the FTC hasn't actually passed anything about non-competes yet.
[1] https://thecounter.org/biden-targeting-non-compete-agreement...
[2] https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3814403
“For example, readers may recall the infamous Jimmy John’s non-compete controversy of 2014. According to a Huffington Post report, the fast food chain required its employees and delivery workers to sign contracts agreeing not to work at any restaurant where sandwiches comprised 10 percent or more of total revenue (that’s right—not just sandwich businesses but any store that sold sandwiches or wraps) within three miles of a Jimmy John’s location for two years after leaving the company. Following an investigation from the New York attorney general’s office, Jimmy John’s dropped the clause in late 2016.”
I don’t disagree that non-competes are a problem but this sort of hyperbole undercuts the stronger arguments that can be made for why noncompetes (without attendant compensation) should be forbidden.
Taking a ~50% pay cut for potentially a year or longer doesn't seem like it works out too well for employees.
If a finance job pays let's say 250k that means you're missing out on maybe 125k. Over 30 years at 5% that's $540,000 on that 125k. If your non-compete is for 2 years that's a loss of over a million dollars. If you can happily live on 50k a year that 2 year non-compete just cost you 20 years of financial freedom.
So garden leave amounts to a bad performance year without having to work, which is a pretty reasonable trade off. At least it always was for me.
Non-competes should have limits of months, and be paid at normal salary rates.
And it'll still be equally hard to find another decent job.
it has long been seen as related to the success of Silicon Valley and one of several reasons why random jurisdictions can’t compete with merely being excited about attracting tech companies
The effect is that two restaurants can each hire two people for a total of 40 hours per person, but don’t have to provide either with full-time benefits, like health care, paid time off, reliable hours, etc.
I wonder how your law works in situations like this.
>I wonder how your law works in situations like this.
In Europe health care has little to nothing to do with one's employer, and paid time off is mandated by law no matter how much or little one makes.
The more bans on non-competes spread in the US, the more the SF Bay Area loses one of its main competitive advantages.
Silicon Valley would not exist as a tech leader if non-competes were a thing in California
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traitorous_eight
https://computerhistory.org/stories/spinoff-fairchild/
https://computerhistory.org/blog/fairchild-and-the-fairchild...
https://law.justia.com/codes/california/2010/lab/2870-2872.h...
You’ve gotta be kidding me.
Venture Capital firms rely a lot more on deal flow and network effects. Their focus is usually on early stage private financing. There are certainly hedge funds which also do similar investing, but by and large they don't play a role during the investing process and largely work with public securities and other instruments. This is also why VC and PE industries tend to hire from B schools, and look for backgrounds very different from hedge funds which by and large tend to pick students from more quantitative or scientific disciplines.
Their terms are governed by the laws of California. If they can’t apply noncompete to employees then how do they get away applying it to customers?
OpenAI's noncompete is unenforceable if you live in California. However, in eight days (1/1/2024) SB 699 [2] goes into effect, extending that protection to everyone outside the state too and AB 1076 [3] amends the section to read “shall be read broadly," broadening the application of the law even further.
[1] https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio....
[2] https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm...
[3] https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm...
How can a state unilaterally extend its jurisdiction across state lines?
If the company leaves California then the state has no jurisdiction over their business.
Especially when you have “special purpose vehicle” LLC’s which aren’t really even real companies at all.
To wit, getting the government to declare it especially exempt from the normal responsibilities of debts and liabilities that affect everyone else.
I'm sorry, what are you talking about?
They are ubiquitous today, but at one time each limited liability corporation was individually created by a unique law passed by the legislature, for a specific purpose--often infrastructure projects--and with a fixed lifetime unless renewed again by another law.
In my experience masking ownership or allowing secret ownership of LLC’s is a net loss for society as a whole. There is a large surface area where ownership is not being masked for a good reason, but is being done as deliberate deception.
At some point we decided that this sort of thing should be available for everyone with the money and time to file the appropriate paperwork. It's really odd though since you can avoid things through incorporation that you can't avoid through other means -- debts that would carry through bankruptcy, and even many criminal issues (at least if they don't rise to the level to pierce the corporate veil).
And I agree with you.
There is a similar law going into effect at the Federal level in January. Some people tried to fearmonger when telling me about it, but I thought it was pretty sane after some research.
Having an LLC is a privilege, not a right, and we should act like it.
I am also an owner of an LLC, and think it should be a right.
If you wanted to be free of government requirements, you should have used a sole proprietorship.
Otherwise, since the government is giving you some protection, they can ask for things in return.
That's what the justice system is for, not the mob.
No they do not. Not everything is a right because of feelings.
> if you deliver shoddy stuff, they could try to sue, you shut the LLC down
This is way oversimplified. Delivering a "shoddy product" is not illegal and it's not the responsibility of victims to deliver justice, it's the responsibility of the government. If a victim wants justice they should go to a court and a court will have access to information on who owns a business.
> and they're left without justice
Ok, so you actually are advocating for vigilante and mob justice.
But if it was public, they would know who you are and could bring a civil case and go through the justice system.
> This is way oversimplified. Delivering a "shoddy product" is not illegal and it's not the responsibility of victims to deliver justice, it's the responsibility of the government. If a victim wants justice they should go to a court and a court will have access to information on who owns a business.
Not necessarily.
And in a civil case, it is unfortunately the responsibility of the victim to set the wheels of justice in motion through the justice system.
I have no idea why you think I am in favor of mob justice when I am at risk of it too as an LLC owner.
> No they do not. Not everything is a right because of feelings.
This is what the commenter above meant with "rights for me and not for thee." You want privacy, but you deny your customers the right of knowing who they are doing business with.
But your demand for the right of privacy is based on your feelings of fear.
You have no real need for privacy, you just want it. You want protection from "them", and anyone who wants protection from you has to navigate the legal system. You pay $100, they pay thousands for a lawyer. Sounds fair.
That's what the justice system is for, not the mob.
If I find an LLC I want to do business with, now I can look at who owns it to see if that changes anything. Otherwise, I can't.
For me personally, I like having them public because one LLC might become a client, and I want to be sure that client is who they say they are and not owned by a company that I won't do business with.
For example, maybe Microsoft decides they want to get support from me. I don't want to support Microsoft. So they have one of their existing shell companies act like a potential client. If LLC records are not public, I can't know it's really Microsoft and reject them. If they are public, I can do the legwork to find out and reject them.
Why would a single individual not want to sue on their own? Who is organizing such mobs and why are they mobbing together?
By saying "why else would they want it" makes me believe you are going entirely on assumption, with zero facts to back it up. There are many acceptable explanations for why someone would want the information.
The point I'm making overall is that demanding there be no anonymity is asking everybody to give up an exceptionally valuable freedom, and what we're getting in return just ranges between nothing for the overwhelming majority of the population, to things with relatively easy solutions for the small percent of people that are affected.
You seem to think people should randomly trust any old LLC to be honest with the public. Why?
As for lying, this is why you have contracts, and in those contracts you have penalties above and beyond losses as penalties. Incidentally it would also generally be a crime. Fraudulent representation of ownership or identity would certainly be prosecutable as fraud and likely other charges. If any money changes hands, you're also setting the stage for wire fraud charges which are particularly nasty, and what really packs on the decades for basically every white collar conviction.
A non exhaustive list of examples: an LLC trying to do business with your town; an LLC filing permits for construction or some business venture; LLC bidding on public projects; an LLC filing for eminent domain privileges at the muni, State or Federal level.
Etc etc.
In general, hiding ownership of LLCs is not done for benign reasons.
Hoping to get the federal one invalidated as soon as 2024 starts, easier to establish standing in the courts once that law starts.
State level ones may be able to pass muster and be evaluated independently, but NY was already unattractive place to form LLC’s and not seeing the difference here. The states compete with each other for business so it just makes other states more attractive.
Maybe certain industries need beneficial owner information. But all LLC’s by mere nature of existing? No
It seems to me something is very broken if half the laws approved by lawmakers are getting vetoed by the governor. Is that normal for states? Does this not lead to an extremely inefficient lawmaking process?
While the President of Germany formally has to accept all laws it's a far less active role. According to the constitution, he's only allowed to not accept a law if he thinks it either was voted on in a process that's forbidden by the constitution or is itself against the constitution. This has happened only nine times since the federal republic exists.
edit: The president is also not the head of the executive, just so no one is confused. The chancellor doesn't have any special role in getting a law accepted.
The only way to make laws that stick is to include a private right of action so that any enterprising / money-grubbing lawyer can make money enforcing the law you wrote.
The NY governor just vetoed more bills in a single sitting than all of George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden did in their full terms combined. That's not just checks and balances, there's something very wrong there.
In a functioning government (especially one dominated by a single party like NY is), the legislature and governor collaborate closely as the bills are being developed. The legislature knows in advance what the governor will veto and is typically acting in good faith and won't waste everyone's time by send huge numbers of bills that are doomed.
What's happening here indicates a serious breakdown in communication and trust between branches of government, branches which, again, are ostensibly run by the same party. That's not normal.
1) Statewide and Nationwide elections attract more voters than local elections. This can mean that statewide officials such as the governor are from a party that more state voters support, while the state legislature is comprised of the opposite party, whose voters are more engaged in off years and smaller local elections. Michigan, for example, has had exclusively Democratic US Senators for a long time but the state legislature spent a long time controlled by Republicans.
2) Many state legislatures have appallingly gerrymandered districts to reinforce the party in power. Wisconsin, for instance, is very much a "purple" state (a close mix of Republican and Democratic voters), but its state legislature has Republican supermajorities due to gerrymandering.
New York's governor has been a Democrat since Pataki gave up the job in 2006. The state legislature has had a Democratic majority since 2011, though for many years a small group of supposed Democrats (supported by supposed Democrat Andrew Cuomo) caucused with the Republicans, giving them control. This history of self-owns by the New York State Democratic Party has nothing to do with the forces you suggest, and are in fact due to run-of-the mill nepotism, corruption, and machine politics.
Hochul is more or less the same as Cuomo, unfortunately.
At a minimum, they should have to have paid minimum full-time wage continuously up to the point they attempt to enforce it, for it to be enforceable (in addition to the requirements), and if they haven't when they try to enforce it then it should be treated as a breach of labor laws.
You shouldn't have to pay more for employer-provided health insurance, for example. You should still get any employer contribution to retirement accounts. You should get an approximation of bonuses you would receive if actively working. And so on.
If a company thinks you are worth signing a non-compete, they should pay like you are still employed. Non-competes should be a burden for the company to discourage their use.
So getting full price while you can still work elsewhere (just not anywhere) wouldn't be fair.
I still say they should be banned outright for the same reason they originally were at common law -- that they restrain trade, which affects third parties.
And I agree, the work obligation doesn't continue after, but I don't think the employee should lose out on pay while they can't work elsewhere in the same field just because the employer wants to keep them from doing so. It should be painful for the company and easy for the employee.
* Have an income limit below which it doesn't apply
* Must be tied to some kind of IP or proprietary knowledge. The fact that an exemption on healthcare workers killed the compromise is nuts. Nurses don't have any proprietary information or knowledge that would harm their former employer
* Must be tied to an employment contract--IE no non-competes for at-will employment. Non-competes should be a two-way street, if the employer is going to get the protection of employee retention and IP privacy, the employee should have some protection against being summarily fired (and then unable to get another job)
The idea that this is competitive information that would harm the former employer if it walked out the door is absolutely insane. it's more likely than not that any two hospitals will be using the same one of the two or three major EHC systems in the market. At any rate, what system they use, and how it's configured is not something that would or could be used against them in the marketplace
I think this was their biggest point. I don't think they agree with non competes.
The earlier comment didn't mention your beliefs about non-competes at all. So I'm not sure what subtleties are getting lost here?
There's absolutely some situations where an employee has valuable IP in their head--product designers, CEOs, software developers, etc--and they should be covered by an employment contract that also protects the employee
Employees with non-competitive information--basically all healthcare workers, skilled trades employees, typical IT staff (not software developers), etc should be free to come and go as they please, if the employee is free to fire them as they please. There's absolutely no rational reason to limit their employment mobility if we're going to operate under a free market capitalist system
This seems like the likely answer. New York has a lot more finance-centric companies than California, and they're going to fight to prevent their employees from being able to go to competing firms.
Basically, if you have a zero sum game with two companies and one has better IP than the other, it makes sense for the time span through which the company without can't reverse engineer it. In every other case it means the groups of companies under the umbrella of non-competes will slowly loose to groups of companies in jurisdictions without non-competes.
To expand on that, if you objectively have some special sauce that you don't want leaked to your competition then it's a net gain for you and a loss for the rest of X industry (where X is finance because they're the ones who want this, not tech). In reality though, it's extremely rare to have sole control over an incredibly strong piece of IP that defines a market. In reality, everyone thinks they do because they don't know what anyone else has. Everyone has something that gives them an edge, hence being competitive in the market, but sharing those secrets within their local area can make the whole industry way more performant.
The law applies to everyone so if you can't have non-competes, neither can your competition. At a local level it will make groups of companies much stronger than their more distant competitors because they can share knowledge under the table at a much higher rate.
Trademark laws seem to be useful. Laws against theft seem to be generally nice. Laws against selling company secrets. Contract laws.
For example, let's say I'm Bob the baker and I own Bob's Bakery. I sell my bakery to Steve. If I were to then open "Bob's New Bakery" across the street I would have sold Steve a crappy barrel of goods. You can see this in a lot of small service-based business too. So you'll have a non-compete that says you can't open an X within Y miles or Z months.
It's a useful construct for some cases.
Ask anyone bemoaning a non-compete why they signed it. They didn't have to! The answer is always: "I wouldn't have gotten the job without it." Exactly. The job would have still been filled. No company is going to not hire a needed worker just because nobody will sign a non-compete. But the company would have hired an otherwise better candidate instead.
In other words, the person who signed the non-compete gets to screw over other workers now just by giving up a small chance of not being able to do a certain job for some duration in the future. That's a pretty good value proposition.
Can you not see the huge power imbalance at play? It's not like other employers in my area aren't also requiring them. So my choice was sign it, or lose my current job, not qualify for unemployment, and I'd have to hunt for a new job but not likely one without a noncompete and likely not without moving.
Don't act like "it's a choice" in our industry because the only companies not pushing them are companies in the few states that have outlawed them.
We are in a company store situation "you don't have to work for that coal mine, you could go to the next town over and work for a different coal mine that has the exact same city setup"
The acquirer was later one of the big opponents of legislation that would eventually somewhat limit non-competes in Massachusetts.
The burden of proof is on "why should a state ban noncompete clauses". As another commenter noted, the default should be to permit voluntary agreements between parties.
There are certainly good arguments for why states should ban them. But that is the position that requires an argument.
Government protections for wages, liability, and safety don't need additional argument. No need to construct a logical through-line against someone presenting a specious "trickle down economics" assertion. The imbalance in power is already recognized. I don't know who would believe that this decision was anything but corrupt.
The state may have concern if that mutual benefit is harmful to the rest of society. A medical doctor, for example, agreeing to not compete could see him no longer able to provide medical services, which could see a third-party to not receive the care they need. As such, the state may find a need to interject to protect the society (i.e. third-parties in need of medical care) it represents.
That's like, a triple negative
Non-solicitation agreements cover not stealing clients or employees after you leave. Non-disclosure agreements cover not sharing non-public information. IP assignment agreements cover assignment of all IP created while being employed.
Why do non-competes need to exist given the above CYA mechanisms that companies already have?
(Edit: the only exception is noted elsewhere in this thread - if you sell your company to another, you shouldn’t be able to turn around and create a competitor right away, but that’s an edge case)
The point obviously is to make it much harder for employees to change jobs and consecutively reduce their wages.
I think it is because that employers don’t think that non-disclosures work as well in practice as they do in theory. As in, a person can sign a non-disclosure but if they are allowed to work at a competitors, they may - sometimes without malicious intent - disclose trade secrets that harm the ex-employer.
Which is a legitimate concern.
These same firms set up complicated corporate structures to prove that “barriers” exist between different parts of their business which prevent collusion and market manipulation. Yet, as the LIBOR manipulation scandal proves, these barriers are toothless when it comes to preventing collusion.
I think it is best to state the fears out in the open:
* we don’t trust non-disclosures enough, when a person works at a competitor
* we don’t trust different departments of the same company not to collude to manipulate markets
Etc
But my point was something else - what people say, and what they mean are different. Employers roll eyes at the mention of non-disclosures. Citizens roll eyes at barriers that banks swear will prevent any sharing of information between different parts of their business.
Industries based on secret keeping would, over time, corrupt each other out of business until only a few are left. I can see a how the authorities would argue that this eventual monopoly is bad and look ways to artificially put moats around the secrets.
I can also see an argument for this kind of business being allowed to natural cease to exist altogether.
Are Wall St secrets different in some way? I suppose for a start we’re talking about sales Rolodexes and client relationships which are much more readily available than cola recipes. In that example the employee’s network is the business value, so why shouldn’t they shop around and take their clients with them?
Is there a better analogy to help understand the economics of the situation?
Garden[ing*] leave is the usual solution to this: the employees are paid a salary to stay at home and do nothing during their notice period. They are cut off from the secrets so that by the end of their employment they no longer pose the threat of a leak.
That feels like a fairer deal — are the non competes in NY state a kind that are effectively requiring unpaid gardening leave? That does indeed seem wrong
*I always preferred the British version of this where the City gentleman spends the leave period tending to his roses rather than just lounging around on the lawn, hence gardening rather than garden leave.
Yeah, there's probably some number of people for whom that fraction to travel the world or work on their startup idea sounds like a really good idea. But there's probably far more who see the potential to derail their career and miss their mortgage payments.
Instead, what we’re witnessing are parties primarily aligned with interests of different companies or verticals, overshadowing the core values and concerns of their supposed political spectrums.
We desperately need campaign finance reform and strong anti-corruption/bribery laws. After that, voting reform and ranked choice voting would go a long way to making things better.
Imagine for a moment you were, say, a certain Florida governor with Presidential ambitions and an R next to your name. A multibillion dollar mouse cartoon company that runs a local theme park in your state is complaining about a law you passed, and you want them to shut up and fall in line with the party diktat. However, it's unconstitutional to just ban political speech you don't like. So instead you decide to write a bill[0] prohibiting any out-of-state corporation with a certain asset size from spending money in the form of campaign contributions to opposing gubernatorial candidates.
Did Florida Man just violate the constitution? If you think so, well, then you believe that money is speech. Or at the very least, that money used to effect political speech (e.g. by lobbying, donating to candidates you want to see elected) should be as protected as speech is. This was actually fairly long-standing SCOTUS precedent, which is probably why they were so willing to tear up campaign finance law.
Where SCOTUS goes off the rails in the two cases above is that they then argue that even content-neutral restrictions on moneyspeech are unconstitutional. It's actually fairly well-established doctrine that protests can be regulated - i.e. we're allowed to shift protests at government events (say, the G7) to "free speech zones" that are carefully selected to be as far away from media attention as possible. We're also allowed to have noise laws, even though people use loud megaphones in protests. But we're, apparently, not allowed to have campaign finance laws which are the equivalent of noise laws for talking to your Congressperson. Evidently shouting so loud you speak over everyone else in the room is legal so long as you're speaking with dollars instead of words.
[0] This example takes place in an alternate universe where Trump 2000 actually got the man in office, so the culture war brain rot happened earlier than the SCOTUS cases that protected bribery with the 1st Amendment
That's a bit sad because it's the right wing ideology that I respect the most. I think their critics of postmodernity (the condition) are actually accurate and can be worked with (I'm pretty sure baudrillard was close to traditional conservatives towards the end of his life).
According to billionaire-owned media, the owner of which is owned by a trillionaire investor, you are a conspiracy theorist: both parties work for their constituents.
In a district Biden won by 8 in 2020, George Santos was elected in 2022 when Republicans nationally underperformed. And this is a guy who would've been exposed by a $500 background check. Over $100 million was spent to lose to Lindsey Graham by 10 while nothing was spent on Mandela Barnes in Wisconsin who lost by a mere 20,000 votes.
I mention all of this as context because Democrats are beholden to the same corporate interests. Their goal isn't to make progressive change. It's not even to win elections. It's really just to fund raise off of how terrible the other side is without the responsibility of having to do anything.
My position on noncompetes is a fairly simple one: when you quit, the employer has the option to enforce their noncompete. If they do for whatever the agreed upon period is they pay you 150% of your highest annual total compensation (not just salary) including benefits over the previous 5 years. for that period. Or they can not. It's all or nothing. Failure to pay at any point in that period removes the noncompete from the employer but doesn't discharge the liability. That is, once a noncompete is exercised the employer is on the hook for the entire amount and needs to keep papying on time to keep that noncompete enforced.
Does that sound harsh (on the employer)? It's meant to be. Don't want to pay a noncompete? Then don't enforce it.
https://www.engadget.com/new-york-right-to-repair-law-kathy-...
So, if you can get 50% to 75% of the eligible population to not vote, then it becomes much easier to maintain power without actually having to take any responsibility for your actions.
It should be that if less than 50% of the eligible population turns out, the election is null, and needs to be re-run. We have a right to say "none of the above" and have it stick. The parties need to bear the costs of creating these terrible ballots and candidates that actually appeal to no one.
* Abstention from voting or refusing to vote are a form of political expression. Mandating that everyone must vote is an attack on freedom of speech and expression and will not fly.
* Ranked Choice and all the other alternatives often floated run afoul of the most basic criteria: They are complicated. The people either will not or cannot understand and consequently will not tolerate complicated voting schemes. Anything more complicated than "<XYZ> gets my vote." is impractically useless. FPTP remains popular because it is fucking simple enough that anyone can understand it, that it's also generally beneficial to the political parties is merely a side effect.
Apparently <crude drawing of penis> is a perennially competitive write in candidate.
It still seems better than the US system (especially vs. here in California, where we have a one party system, and primaries are often uncontestable).
Huh? California has had jungle primaries for years. The top two candidates with the most votes in the primaries run in the general election, even if they're both from the same party. That makes the primaries a lot more competitive than usual like when Kevin de León (D) ran against Dianne Feinstein (D) for the US Senate seat in 2018.
The only chance Republicans even have of running against a Democrat is when the Democrat is so popular that no one bothers running. This past gubernatorial election, the next closest Democrat won 50x less votes than Newsom so Brian Dahle (R) got to go to the general election with only 17% of the total turnout (Newsom had 56% in the primaries and won the general with 59%).
Ever since we managed to extricate the GOP from state government, one party rule has been going pretty well. Not perfect, but a lot better than the "bipartisan" shit show Davis and Arnold left us.
Australia has had "ranked choice voting" ("preferential" is what we call it here) for over a century now - starting with the 1919 Australian federal election. If Australians can "understand" and "tolerate" it, why not Americans too?
> Anything more complicated than "<XYZ> gets my vote." is impractically useless.
In America, campaign signs say "Vote For Whoever". In Australia, they say "Vote 1 For Whoever" instead. No real difference. Some people just fill out the rest of the boxes randomly, some people follow a "how to vote" card issued by their preferred candidate, some people think hard about who gets their 2nd/3rd/4th etc. Some Australian states now have "optional preferential", where your vote is still valid even if you don't make a 2nd/3rd/etc choice.
Except, this isn't actually the strategy employed by Dems in several battleground states. Growth in voter turnout has correlated with strong outcomes for democrats pretty reliably over the last 10 years, at all levels, especially in the rust belt.
Then, looking at off year and congressional elections, the data is much less hopeful. It's almost _always_ the case that you see less than 50% eligible, and even less than 50% _registered_ turnout.
Actually, NYC is the largest jurisdiction in the country with ranked choice voting.
The problem is that governor is a statewide race, and there are no statewide ballot initiatives in NY. Any ballot initiatives on the state ballot are for issues that the legislature has already approved, as opposed to initiatives that can be brought independently of the legislature.