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Well, then if you can convince the EU to force Apple to allow uncensored models that will happily teach you how to make bombs and all manner of things like that, then you can have those models on your iDevice. Not sure the EU is going to jump on board that kind of free speech though.

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They already allow uncensored web browsers that will happily open up web pages about making bombs.

You could make the same (unconvincing) argument for apps on third-party stores, teaching the same dangerous things or doing even worse things like (gasp) allowing pornography :P

Generally speaking, Apple has maintained rigid control over apps and have banned everything you mentioned.

If EU app stores fill up with pornography and terrorism apps, you can imagine their move will be decried as a debacle and used by Apple to demonstrate how the EU failed by forcing them to open up

If EU app stores fill up with pornography and terrorism apps, that will be a problem of the companies running the stores, not Apple's problem.

Apple has no right to decide what users do with the hardware they sell.

Can we start expanding this argumentation to Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo too?

I really want to start playing hardcore porn games on my PS5 as soon as possible. Sony has no right to decide what I do with my hardware, right?

Can we start expanding this argumentation to Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo too?

Sure.

I really want to start playing hardcore porn games on my PS5 as soon as possible.

And if somebody figures out how to do that, they should be able to.

Sony has no right to decide what I do with my hardware, right?

Pretty much, yes.

We don't need to "figure it out". We need the EU to force the big three console manufacturers to allow 3rd party stores in their consoles.

We can do that after the big fishes, those devices aren't such a big deal which is why people aren't complaining as much about them.

> Can we start expanding this argumentation to Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo too?

Absolutely.

> Sony has no right to decide what I do with my hardware, right?

That is correct.

Can you allow uncensored models but they need to be wrapped around Apple's on-device censorship firewall?

Or is there a common API for llm constitution (or however it is called)?

Apple already has the CoreML framework anyone can use to do on device processing. They even have tools to help convert things into the format the iPhone uses. As others have pointed out you can already find apps with public models on the Apple App Store.

They’re not doing anything to censor any of this.

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