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Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

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38 pointsmagoghm27 comments

"Despite having his laptop confiscated, Kurtaj managed to breach Rockstar, the company behind GTA, using an Amazon Firestick, his hotel TV and a mobile phone."

I'm sorry WHAT?! He hacked Rockstar from a firestick?

They run Android so you should be able to get a shell fairly easily.

Go down to market, grab cheap prepaid phone, Fire Stick, and a Bluetooth keyboard, and you're off to the desktop races. Pivot in from literally any remote desktop, shell, anything.

This is tragic -- I bet this kid could make great contributions with some support.

> The court heard that Kurtaj had been violent while in custody with dozens of reports of injury or property damage.

> Doctors deemed Kurtaj unfit to stand trial due to his acute autism so the jury was asked to determine whether or not he committed the alleged acts - not if he did so with criminal intent.

Hopefully he will get the right sort of help.

Or.... He is a good actor and has decided that being locked in a mental hospital is better than prison

For life? Probably not.

You could try to get healed; but he should have read: One flew over the cuckoo's nest.

For sure. Sentencing guidelines and legal tests for criminality are usually very clearly drawn, even if the logic that brought them to conclusion may be flawed. You'll know when you're in and when you're out of their graces independently of any particular referees opinion, once the big decisions over your fate have been made they tend to be strongly deterministic.

The guidelines for mental health and danger to oneself in that context are literally the subjective opinion of a handful of appointed decision- makers who may not all be working from strictly clinical diagnostic criteria (or even training) , but who all do have every motivation to err on the side of caution at your expense, and to do so indefinitely.

There's already an ongoing thread about it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38723309

A no doubt gifted person who was probably put through torture (as they would experience it) in a prison, now locked away for life because they lashed out.

Big clap for all the big brains there who failed this guy

> He worked with Kurtaj and other members of Lapsus$ to hack tech giant Nvidia and phone company BT/EE and steal data before demanding a four million dollar ransom, which was not paid.

> They also stole directly from individuals through their cryptocurrency wallets.

Its not that easy to have sympathies with such an individual since these are not isolated instances but clear long term pattern, he may excel at one extremely narrow aspect of existence but rest is much less than stellar.

The crimes he did may not mean much to you but clearly law says different, if you don't like it feel free to campaign for a change. Or would you have similar sentiments if he got enraged and somehow managed killed few people? Since your words would still apply.

You can have empathy with anyone, if you try.

I reserve all of it for people trying hard to live good honest life but bad luck and misfortune happens. This is certainly not the case.

> dozens of reports of injury or property damage

That doesn't sound as just "lashing out".

That sounds _exactly_ like an autistic person lashing out.

It exactly does, particularly if someone who has no idea about autism decides to try to restrain or something

"The gang's attacks on tech giants including Uber, Nvidia and Rockstar Games cost the firms nearly $10m."

Were these actual costs or typical made up bullshit?

Hacks incur legal costs and engineering time to mitigate (even if just to do postmortems) which are both extremely expensive resources. $10 million doesn't seem at all unreasonable for multiple Fortune 500 firms getting breached.

That's the corporate equivalent of losing $10.

You’re not wrong, but it’s worth emphasising “fortune 500”, because it’s their own fault it costs them that much. Would be a negligible fraction of that for normal companies.

>It concluded that Lapsus$ "made clear just how easy it was for its members (juveniles, in some instances) to infiltrate well-defended organisations".

So is it style guidelines for BBC to rewrite "quotes" using UK spelling? Here's the report it was lifted from: https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/2023-08/CSRB_Lapsus...

If the report was in another language they’d translate to British English. It’s not unreasonable to translate the US English to British English.

[dupe]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38723309

> The judge said Kurtaj's skills and desire to commit cyber crime meant he remained a high risk to corporations

Fixed

The court heard that Kurtaj had been violent while in custody with dozens of reports of injury or property damage.

Doctors deemed Kurtaj unfit to stand trial due to his acute autism so the jury was asked to determine whether or not he committed the alleged acts - not if he did so with criminal intent.

This seems an extreme defense of capitalism.

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