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>It’s so crazy how my vaporware does like 99% of my driving for me every day.

There's no point lying about how finicky it is, or the number of disengagements you encounter. There's too much evidence to the contrary.

Recently one of the biggest FSD proponents on Twitter put out, essentially, a promotional video for FSD, and it showed multiple disengagements and an incredibly dangerous blown stop sign.

Nobody cares that half your commute you can sit there pretending not to drive down a highway. That's not full self driving.

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At this point I don’t understand what the Tesla haters are even talking about.

I have the software. I use it daily. I am happy with it.

Somebody in twitter did a dangerous demonstration. This doesn’t change much.

Let’s talk about a different technology and maybe that could help you understand this:

There was a time when consumer drone tech would be looked at as “vaporware”. Almost certainly somebody in the 90s advertised something looking functionally like a DJI phantom and never delivered on it. Pretty much ever you robot I got advertised as a child comes to mind.

If somebody took a DJI phantom and crashed it into a building, does that make the current, existing, very real technology into “vaporware” in your mind?

There was a time when self driving tech was also vaporware, but that time has passed. Somebody using existing, very real technology in a stupid way doesn’t mean that it suddenly doesn’t exist.

> Recently one of the biggest FSD proponents on Twitter put out, essentially, a promotional video for FSD, and it showed multiple disengagements and an incredibly dangerous blown stop sign.

Don't forget, it was actually a comparison between Waymo and Tesla in SF. They tried so hard to show Tesla was better, but it was embarrassing how flat out dangerous it was.

Here's the compilation: https://twitter.com/elaifresh/status/1727889381309239731

I feel like accusing someone of lying is a bit of a leap. I would just guess the guy you're replying to lives somewhere easier to drive than SF.

I'm interested - can you link this?

https://twitter.com/elaifresh/status/1727889381309239731

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