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Winter and snow is hard for a lot of reasons. But we did some testing with safety drivers in NYC last year and will be in Buffalo this year: https://twitter.com/Waymo/status/1721629316625093035 (and others historically).

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Ever think about partnering with ARA [1] (and/or Subaru) when it comes to winter/snow and inclement-condition driving? There are groups like Team O'Neil [2] up in NH that offer closed courses for challenging driving conditions, and it would likely be a cool marketing opportunity for Waymo.

[1] https://www.americanrallyassociation.org/

[2] https://teamoneil.com/

I've always said that self-crashing cars will win my stamp of approval when they can compete in stage rally. It'd likely push the Waymo team to evolve even further by getting involved in something like that, even with just the basics.

Next time you should try in NYC and Buffalo (or Minneapolis) during winter. Doing it without snow like the twitter and blog post show doesn't change much. Good luck.

Sorry if I was unclear, that's what we did in NYC and are doing again in Buffalo. The blog post is actually from the previous Bellevue announcement.

Edit to add this link to some footage: https://twitter.com/dmitri_dolgov/status/1489318507342807041

Nice! That's the kind of research that's needed. Obscured roads with emergent lanes.

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