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IMHO we need a standardised benchmark for this stuff.

You can't claim better than human when humans are driving under different conditions.

I looked around to try to find the actual data but it's just marketing materials. Are these miles on the same roads under the same traffic and weather conditions?

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See my top-level comment: same locations, adjusting for surface streets only, etc.

Thanks for the clarifications.

Does it control for Waymos cutting off other Waymos? https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/18myjc6/dr...

AFAICT the cars are everywhere I'd go. They're just on normal streets and when you take them they're just like normal drivers (except they don't run reds and are politer).

They don't go on the freeway for public rides currently iirc.

Ah sorry. I thought he meant on city roads. You are right. I've seen them on the freeways but never fully autonomous.

Snow?

Given that Waymo had a fatality and other collisions with pedestrians / bikers when there were their own human safety drivers behind the wheel, there is indeed some direct AI-vs-human data available but Waymo clearly decided that such incidents should be ignored from this press release.

C'mon man. Everyone knows these stats are doctored to create the illusion that somehow self driving cars are better than humans (spoiler: they are not if you consider all road and weather conditions). I will say this though: at least with waymo the car is not actively trying to kill you and is dumb af when it comes to egde cases like other "self-driving" cars

I’ve been hit by two Ubers while I was in the crosswalk. Any self-driving taxi co would have held data and assumed liability while the Uber drivers run away and Uber says they’re not employees so.

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