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It'd be interesting to see more data from this. Were the accidents tied to the specific vehicle? Or to all the vehicles requesting the quote? Also, age and other demographic breakdowns would likely be telling. Seeing RAM at the top gives some clues where that might lead.

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That was my first thought, too: I’d love to see it broken down by models - Tesla’s marketing has been about sports car performance so I’d bet that if you broke most of these down more you’d see it’s not the brand but certain buyers. I doubt Subaru Forrester drivers are pushing those numbers up, either.

Wouldn't you expect supercar brands Ferrari, Zonder (sp?), Lamborghini, etc., to have terrible crash rates? Especially given the small numbers that most be sold.

Are they all excluded from the figures?

It’s an interesting question. I’d think that they’d do better because you have to be a serious car nut to want one even if you’re rich whereas it’s not that hard for an irresponsible teenager to get a more normal car. I’d love to test that guess against hard data, however.

I'd guess that most of those are owned by older drivers and not driven nearly as much. Most don't rack up tons of miles.

Probably accidents per mile would be high, but I doubt accidents per vehicle would be notable.

Not being familiar with the USA car market demographics could you suggest how RAM gives clues that we're looking at confounding factors?

RAM trucks are almost exclusively driven by young-to-middle age-ish men. Additionally they'd be easily stereotyped as, well, assholes. It's no surprise that RAM is consistently near the top of tons of these lists because they're being driven by aggressive morons, on average.

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