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Comment by whelp_24 | Hacker News Reader

404 media is really, really anti-ai and especially image generation. In this case stolen isn't as inaccurate as it could be but the article definitely has a strong bias. (Stolen in the same way a musician can steal a chord progression, i.e, not illegal but done faithfully enough sorta unethical)

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Everyone violently pro- OR anti-AI should realize they're violently agitated before any word is spoken. The most plausible explanation to this phenomenon is that,

  AI image generators trigger Uncanny Valley effect[1].

It might have hit the bottom, or there could be more below, but either way, people should be aware and be mindful and be interested in that they are more agitated than with respect to superficial agreement/disagreement relevant discussion topics, to terminology("learning") or copyright law interpretations or any of the sorts.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

I don't understand what this has to do with my comment.

Also, ai art has gotten past uncanny valley in a lot of cases, that's why there is concern it's possible to confuse with real images.

404 media is lying when they say any image of a man with a wood carving of a dig is stolen.

They need to be sued into bankruptcy for defamation.

AI is a wonderful tool that lets anyone creat beautiful images, and the incumbents in the image-faking field are deeply offended by that.

> They need to be sued into bankruptcy for defamation.

How about let's not.

What? I thought copyright would cover "*.human-with-carved-dog", not "specific.human-with-carved-dog". At least that's how it seems to work if you listen to some people. You draw a flower, nobody can draw a flower anymore.

This is the logical conclusion if you believe training on some copyrighted works and then generating different enough content would violate the original copyright.

If I remember correctly, just training on a copyrighted image without generating a similar image was argued in court to be copyright infringement.

"Stolen" is meant colloquially, not literally let alone precise legally.

I disagree.

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