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Could this be schizophrenia or another mental condition?

If you’re certain you avoided 2 kidnapping attempts, can you get access to nearby security camera footage as evidence?

Spending 5 months following you without overtly trying to extort you doesn’t sound typical for a criminal gang. Not impossible, given the sums involved, but patience and caution aren’t their hallmarks.

Consider whether you are in the common age range for schizophrenia to manifest. Attempt to prove or disprove, with hard evidence that a 3rd party would believe, whether there really are external forces conspiring against you.

I would be asking myself which is more likely: that a criminal gang has been trying and failing to kidnap me for months, or that I currently cannot trust my perceptions.

I am not a doctor, lawyer, nor law enforcement officer and this is not medical, legal, nor personal safety advice.

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It most likely is and while your attempts to help them "logic" their way out of this are noble, I don't think it will help.

"Gang stalking" is the term I've heard for it and Wikipedia has some details about it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_stalking

I hope the op can get some help with this.

Sorry to clarify the "Most likely is", I mean that in relation to a mental disorder of some kind as mentioned in the parent comment. Not that they're truly being persecuted by a criminal gang. Not impossible, but judging by the description of what's happened, unlikely.

My friend tried to set me up for a robbery. I realized this, avoided the assault, "friend" of 20 years stopped calling me at all since August, when before he was ringing me every week or two. This part is obvious.

A week later I started seeing strange people around my house in Germany. I wasn't paranoid at that point, I was sure that my friend will let it go, after I had seen him through. But then the followings started.

No camera evidence, I just realized what is going on and bolted. Once in the hotel, once through bribed security guards. Apparently they thried to get me while I sleep.

5 months, unlikely, that's what everyone says. These people are not common criminals, patience and caution are their hallmarks, they just don't want any witness and thus the police being involved, just waiting for the opportunity. They are proffesionals. And it's hard for them when I am aware and careful, but they won't wait forever.

My stuff didn't hack itself, I had silent phone calls from private number in certain situations, ambiguous messages sent to my skype account, that nobody had knowledge of, but them from my hacked password database.

I am well past the age for common schizophrenia breakouts. I had seen a psychiatrist a few days ago, I wanted to be admited to a mental hospital, just to get a break, but after the evaluation they refused to admit me in, just offered treatmet for depression some time later.

If there is no tangible evidence of this you can legitimately point to and hand the police, then there is no thing indicating it exists outside of your own head (delusion). How do you know guards are bribed, your devices are hacked? Robocalls and rando messages on Skype are a dime a dozen, but if they’re incriminating threats, take it to police. Do not rely on your own instinct or intuition to make deductions about reality, rely on tangible evidence that 3rd parties can appreciate ; This era of cameras and recorders leaves no excuse. There is no organization so professional they can make demands, negotiations, or attempts at your life via telepathy.

Your close friends and relatives can gauge your personality more accurately than you can. If your family thinks you’re psychotic, I’d trust that more than some random walk in psych.

If I got 10 friends to alternatively follow you every day, and you would notice that, would it still be in your own head? There were reasons I had been followed, at that was they thought I would run, because I already did before, but had been found.

Again, where is the external evidence, outside of your own head?

Feeling convinced you're being followed/watched is a classic symptom of paranoid schizophrenia.

Gang stalking is real and it can happen for both fun and profit.

The technical details are very different to what even a smart person would “suppose.”

Truth is not sane by society’s standards so we play along in confidence and call that convention.

Getting karma negged for sharing an unpopular or undesirable first hand account of truth is a frustration everyone “opening up” experiences.

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