Microsoft defends Edge's predatory practices with cringe, audacious reply on X
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It’s not just Edge, Windows is a disaster too. I just got a new laptop, and I was surprised by the sheer amount of bloat (widgets, notifications, crappy Bing AI integration, Edge, etc). It took me a whole afternoon of delving into the registry and group policy editors to clean things up. (EDIT: forgot to mention) And then I started getting a “totally not marketing” “this is a series of welcome emails” spam with no unsubscribe links.
I really want to switch back to Linux. The only thing stopping me is the lack of HDR display support.
Nobody at Microsoft pays attention to these. I'm sure of it. It's the only way to explain why, upon clicking the [x] of a notification, it remains in the notification widget. Surely they - like all the rest of us - are just letting that number above the button tick up and up until the next restart.
If they're going to shoehorn phone features into their desktop OS, do it properly! Once they've fixed this, they can get started on fixing Modern Standby.
You can easily find the installation media for older versions of MS-DOS and Windows, as well as other MS products; and try them out in a VM to see what the experience back then was like. You can even do it in a browser now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38376731
apparently putting out some "<3 Linux" ads, a somewhat usable terminal and a free IDE is enough to make people forget 40 years of abusive control
(not to mention their mostly unreliable software)
Nightlies are available to try out now: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/nightlies.html
The target market for Windows are not you and I. The target market for Windows absolutely love this stuff. For every complaint about candy crush there are three decision makers playing it. He'll I've dealt with a cto that wanted help buying candy crush credits of whatever they are called.
Mostly interns and fresh people out of university, with a couple of old timers as managers.
Everyone that actually knew Windows development already saved themselves into Google, AWS, Azure or jumped into AI craziness going on MS.
Those of us with long time Windows development background, would make remarks on community calls or Github issues, regarding Windows Forms or WPF capabilities still missing, both in framework features or Visual Studio tooling, and get stare looks about what we were at all talking about.
> It’s not just Edge, Windows is a disaster too
It was always like this, getting in the way of the user.
The Vivaldi new release has a session manager and workspace rules which might keep my main setup there for now. I think it's the only other game in town with vertical tabs, unless that Arc browser gets windows/linux availability
Make a product that's so good it speaks for itself and spreads like wildfire through word of mouth. That's what doing a good job is.
Also, Edge has left side tabs without the top tab bar, which Firefox still hasn't allowed again without hacks in modern extensions. Hate.
having IT provide Windows, Edge and Outlook installed on some awful underspecced HP box doesn't count
I’ve been an engineer for over a decade, have setup various flavors of Linux throughout my various machines, use Linux at work and for various tasks. But I still happily installed win11 on my latest PC build and am enjoying it as an OS.
Why? Simple answer. Windows is comfortable and, most importantly, everything just works. I don’t have to go hunting for drivers or worry about my hardware. It being supported on my current flavor of Linux. When I sit down to use my personal machine, I want it to just work, not to have to tinker with it to get the latest video game to play.
Windows is the Toyota Corolla of OSes. It just plain works, with everything.
More likely they have some PR think-tank that came up with the idea to tweet like the cool kids in an attempt to rebrand the company
>Hey look, we’re not really corporate pirate lawyers! We tweet just like you, fellow kids! on god we deadass bussin fr no cap
macOS (and iOS) don’t have ads or bloatware. They are totally different from windows. Not perfect, but way better.
I beg to differ. I get prompted on iOS to upgrade my iCloud storage regularly, thanks in part to the completely nonsensical way that you manage storing messages in iOS. There is no way to disable this behavior.
And on macOS, every time I press “play” on my wireless headphones when no media is playing, Apple Music opens and prompts me to subscribe.
Always they had a reputation of being slimy with low quality code, bugs.
Of course the whole Casey Muratori incident also made it clear how terrible Microsoft programmers are.
I worked with 2 Microsoft principal engineers in my life and I swore I would never work with another Microsoft dev since then.
Quantity != quality.
Especially when the majority of those users are likely not using it by choice.
https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362
It's nothing serious just microsoft engineers writing slow as shit code and reacting poorly to someone trying to help.
Casey submitted a bug saying that it’s slow and should be much much faster.
Microsoft responded something like “text is hard … … phd dissertation on rendering text”
Casey made a terminal renderer with more features than Microsoft’s renderer in a weekend, it performed orders of magnitude faster, had zero optimization work performed and he jokingly (and hilariously) titled the video “a phd dissertation”.
Next, the excuse parade rolled in and came up with all manner of excuses as to why Muratoris renderer was so much faster, so he made a follow up video addressing the excuse parade, as well as containing some very minor optimization.
Also note that Casey’s implementation isn’t even as fast as things could be. His optimizations are minor.
https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEMXAbCVnmY6zCgpCFlgggR...