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Yeah and let's also take a moment to consider that the current government here in Canada is not conservative.

I say this in the most non-partisan way possible, just as a freedom loving Canadian: "Fuck Trudeau"

Given how conclusively the article explains that this bill is supported by effectively everybody _but_ Trudeau, I'd like to take a moment to thank you for unburdening the rest of us so effectively with any ongoing need to give precious time or thought to anyone wielding that particular two word phrase, or, for those of us who have already wasted our time in dialogue with folks like you, reaffirming the conclusions we'd already drawn. Appreciated.

The current Goverment voted against this and is not the ones trying to pass it.

From the article, "In fact, government ministers voted against it. Instead, the bill is backed by the Conservatives, Bloc and NDP with a smattering of votes from backbench Liberal MPs."

Your anger seems to be misplaced in this instance.

You're right https://openparliament.ca/votes/44-1/609/

Thanks Obama.

I don't know if it's funny or sad that some people blame Trudeau for everything, including the Palestine-Israel war.

> "The bill, which is the brainchild of Senator Julie Miville-Duchêne, is not a government bill. In fact, government ministers voted against it. Instead, the bill is backed by the Conservatives, Bloc and NDP with a smattering of votes from backbench Liberal MPs."

Remember, the opposition and the Senate can get bills through in a minority parliament.

That's a good point but it's worth noting that the NDP is backing it, as well as some Liberal MPs. For non-Canadians, NDP is our "far left" party. I don't mean that in a pejorative sense, just that our Liberal party tends to be your "mainstream" moderates and we have a 3rd party for the less moderate left-leaning voters. That's what the NDP is. So if they're backing this then that can only mean that there is bi-partisan support for this.

So basically fuck everyone…except Trudeau? This is why I can’t take the fuck Trudeau crowd seriously. He’s their go-to bogeyman for everything.

I mean, imagine how much worse it would be if Poilievre was the PM ;)

Atleast Poilievre would be on a shorter leash than Trudeau

Unfortunately if Poilievre actually did get into the PM office it'd be on the back of a CPC majority - so he'd have a lot more freedom to act than Trudeau's current minority government.

We'll see. Could also be a Harper-like minority, getting support from the bloc. Trudeau also has a very supportive NDP right now, so Trudeau does have a lot of freedom currently.

I'll never say never but the current state of the CPC is so departed from mainstream Canadian politics that it's far more likely that BQ would side with LPC... and the NDP and Greens would basically have to have a melt-down to side with the CPC.

I think it's almost vanishingly unlikely that the CPC form government unless they actually achieve a majority share of seats.

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