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> I also find it amusing that in Oracle's slides, "Java On Our Computers" is demonstrated with the Java update screen. Sigh.

Is the Java Updater even written in Java? That would be an even funnier example of "Java On Our Computers." :)

The controls in it have a strange, non-native feel, so I'd hazard that it might be.

It is however possibly the only obviously 'Java' experience that most non-techinal people have had.

If you're trying to prove to them that Java is everywhere, this is what's going to make them think "Oh yeah, it's on my computer too"

here are Oracle's slides. I hate to say, Oracle's evidence are much more convincing.

http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/features/opening-slides-1...

...Or they would be if they hadn't used a PDF generator that managed to completely befuddle Safari. I believe this is the first time I've ever seen a PDF that Safari can't render.

Ironically, it's quite legible in Chrome.