Comment by PeterStuer | Hacker News Reader

Comment by PeterStuer | Hacker News Reader

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First of all being labeled an 'artist' has little relation to the tools used to create 'art'. 'Art' by 'artists' does inlude the Sistene Chapel amf the Matthew Passion, but also trowing a bucket of paint at a canvas, wrapping a bridge, having ice melt and dragging a urinal into a museum.

That does not make you an artist whenever you spill ketchup on your shirt, wrap a Chrismas gift or pour yourself a scotch on the rocks.

Second, while you can indeed just type a prompt into Midjourney and some images will be generated, there are 'artists' using diffusion models to meticulously craft 'art' using hundreds of itrrations combining dozens of models and loras with inpainting. outpainting, recomposing and fusing, dtawing and more to come to a unique piece of 'art'.

Third, didn't we have the same thing before? Are DJ's musicians? Some most definetly are. Creating new music by adapting, restructuring. remixing and extending existing tracks, while others use turntables as a real instrument. Others just put on some records at a wedding.

It's about intention and context, and yes, creativity and skill, not about the tools used.

Great response.

I would also add that art is also "created" when you consume it. When we consume it, we generate some interpretation, feelings or imagery. This is the last step. That's internal, but this processing of art is also art.

That explain why some people find something as art and others as BS. As you say it's about intention and context, from the artist point of view and also from the consumer.

"Artist" in the context of image creation means you're the main supplier of the talent. In other words, you painted the picture yourself and spent time developing your talent. I can make a video recording of you making the picture from scratch with your own hand.

AI "artist" isn't an artist. It's someone who uses an external product to automate the talent for them by creating an average image based on samples created by artists, of which were curated by individuals with particular tastes. It's why AI art mostly looks the same.

It's also the reason a DJ a is called a disc jockey and not a musician. They are labeled differently to show the difference in the generation of the supplied content.

You might as well say that someone who Googles "picture of a dog" is an artist as well since they learned the ins and outs of the search engine. A better term for AI Artist would be something that mentions the collage aspect of it.

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