Or do others disagree?
Or do others disagree?
Factory workers also are not going to be getting the kind of severance packages software devs get.
We get severance packages?
Obviously, local laws will vary greatly.
(b) Even for the <1 year employed, 60 days of factory pay (or instruction manual writer pay, or box artist pay, etc.) is less than 2 months of tech worker pay.
Pay and compensation for the value of employee-provided benefits to which they would have been entitled had they been employed, if the layoff meets the size, etc., requirement for WARN Act coverage.
Yes this is one area where it is all over the map, and you have to check your employment jurisdiction.
Now consider what that does to a job search.
edit: nooo don’t downvote me I wasn’t saying to fire them
I think Charles Dickens wrote a Christmas themed book on the topic of a heartless businessman, who acted much the same to his employees.
And it’s not like finding a job while everyone else is off is easy either.
Of course details vary country to country.
One fairly common thing is you can opt to take it as an lump sum now, or take it as a monthly salary - but with the proviso that if you take a new job you stop getting it. This is often the way benefit extensions work also. Sometimes the monthly option is larger.
So financially you are often better off with the lump sum, but it can be a tax hit.
But I think it makes more sense if you look at it like this: some people feel like the holidays are already stressful enough, others feel like it's a time to be able to relax and refocus away from work. Having layoffs right at this point in time makes things even more stressful for the first group, and ruins the holiday for the second group. And in both cases, if you have layoffs in January, those affected can hit the ground running immediately rather than waiting for the New Year.
Otherwise, management and shareholders are just going to keep operating in this manner and treating workers poorly and nothing will change.
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
> "As you know people, as you learn about things, you realize that these generalizations we have are, virtually to a generalization, false. Well, except for this one, as it turns out. What you think of Oracle, is even truer than you think it is. There has been no entity in human history with less complexity or nuance to it than Oracle. And I gotta say, as someone who has seen that complexity for my entire life, it's very hard to get used to that idea. It's like, 'surely this is more complicated!' but it's like: Wow, this is really simple! This company is very straightforward, in its defense. This company is about one man, his alter-ego, and what he wants to inflict upon humanity -- that's it! ...Ship mediocrity, inflict misery, lie our asses off, screw our customers, and make a whole shitload of money. Yeah... you talk to Oracle, it's like, 'no, we don't fucking make dreams happen -- we make money!' ...You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don't anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn, you stick your hand in there and it'll chop it off, the end. You don't think 'oh, the lawnmower hates me' -- lawnmower doesn't give a shit about you, lawnmower can't hate you. Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower. Don't fall into that trap about Oracle."
Labor should try being the lawnmower instead of the lawn; "the beatings will continue until morale improves."
Note that GM cried in public they could not afford the UAW's demands, and once they agreed to said demands, they still did a $10B share buyback. Boo hoo. I'm simply tired of psychopaths in positions of power in the labor market.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/29/business/gm-lavishes-sharehol...
That means you can essentially only start the process in early January, so you're already a few weeks/a month into your severance
Most of the people impacted by this aren't high-paid tech workers.