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Since the source is AlJazeera can you at least take these testimonies with a grain of doubt?

You mean the only news outlet who hasn't lied once since the start of the conflict? Unlike CNN, BBC and others who just believed IDF lies like the beheaded babies thing?

Al Jazeera blatantly lied about the rocket launch that landed on the Al Shifa hospital, putting on pure misinformation to explain why it was not possible for a rocket to have landed there.

New York times confirmed it was Israeli shells that hit Al shifa hospital.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/14/world/middleeast/israel-g...

Is there another noteworthy rocket strike in the vicinity of Al Shifa hospital that the comment you replied to might have been referencing?

I think that GP was referring to a different hospital. Al Jazeera had claimed that the Israeli Air Force had bombed the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital, killing 500. The missile was found to be from PIJ and did not even hit the hospital but the parking lot. Al Jazeera continues to deny this last I checked.

Give me a source, all shelling was from the IDF, and they have already hit multiple hospitals, and now committed a massacre in a school. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/12/13/israel-ha...

Even Israeli media have said all statistics we know about Oct 7th are fake, including that stupid festival, the IDF shot it's own settlers. https://x.com/Esralshikh/status/1731399685879767522

Here is a picture of the crater[0] that caused the hospital to crumble with "Hundreds under the rubble of al-Ahli Arab Hospital".[1] The hospital is still completely intact as it was never hit. Despite this clear factual error Aljazeera is still sure that at least 500 people died. You can read more here.[2]

With regard to your tweet, I can only see the first post as I don't get my information from unsourced tiwtter posts and do not have a login. That first post does not say does not say that "all statistics we know about Oct 7th are fake" but if you can find an actual source that says that Oct 7th was fake I'd be gals to see it. Especially in light of videos showing Hamas terrorists killing civilians. What exactly is your claim? That Hamas did not invade, or that they did invade, but not with guns, and that the IDF took the chance to kill its civilians at "that stupid festival"? Or that they did have guns but didn't use them because they were just going for a visit?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosio...

[1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/16/israel-ha...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosio...

what's wrong with al jazeera?

They don't blindly repost Israeli propaganda.

They are state-owned media for an authoritarian government that is hostile to Israel. They are incentivized to make Israel look bad.

Al-Jazeera has some incredibly great reporting for the past couple of decades across many conflicts.

The fact that Israel doesn't like their reporting doesn't necessarily make their reporting less factual.

They are considered incredibly biased against Israel, certainly by Israelis.

(Israelis consider a lot of media slightly biased against them, but Al Jazeera is in a completely different league.)

They are mostly (or fully, based on their banner) funded by Qatar, which is kinda allied with Hamas.

For stuff unrelated to Qatar, they are pretty unbiased. But that changes when their owners actually have an interest in the matter.

they're openly biased, but by far the best mainstream news Outlet in the region

Scroll through a few dozen of their headlines at https://www.aljazeera.com/tag/israel-palestine-conflict/ and you will quickly discover a glaring pro-Palestinian bias that is almost comical if you are proposing they do objective, disinterested reporting.

I gave up after about 20 pages to find anything indicating otherwise.

I would do the other way around....

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