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Heck, at this point I'd accept a particular enterprise software company shipping a one click update program instead of 10 pages of instructions and 720,621 lines of PL/SQL that I need to run against the Oracle database.

// that is the exact line count from "wc -l" - I am not joking

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But then we couldn't charge you for training and consulting.

That does seem to be the prevailing attitude in enterprise software.

I cannot help but look at the history of the big 3 Detroit automakers and their love of using service and support as a revenue source. It bit them pretty badly when Honda came along and made cars that didn't need the repairs.

I look at the example of the automakers every time someone tells me the proper business model for software is give away the program and charge for support, consulting, and training. I would much rather pay for software that I never have to call support about.

Agreed, but that's not quite how it works in Enterprise software, I think. Enterprise software is developed to cover a wide spectrum of businesses whose business rules, etc differ greatly. Because of this it's hard to make a product that "just works" for every organization. That's why CIOs buy support and consulting contracts. :)

The one we are using (names withheld to protect the guilty) is being used in a turnkey manner. No customization or custom code, just the base functionality. It is the pure gall of shipping a sql file as an update that is longer than most programs.

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