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Comment by pdntspa | Hacker News Reader

God I really wish we Americans would get on whatsapp

No thanks, iMessage is much better and not owned by Facebook.

Damn Straight.

My sense is that zeitgeist has shifted on this in the last year no?

In what way?

It's owned by Apple. Thats not better. Same shit, other asshole.

How is iMessage better? WhatsApp is a great app.

Apple's business model is predicated on me buying things from them.

Facebook's business model is predicated on being able to sell access to me to third parties.

I can control the first one directly.

That is not related to how the app works though

So I can give my data to Meta? No thanks.

It felt like most of the US was on whatsapp and then everyone moved to signal and telegram

I don't consider any of these as a viable option.

Why? What is so great about it? It seems practically identical to signal and, if everyone is already on iOS, strictly worse than iMessage.

Runs on android, windows, web, macOS, iOS.

So does signal.

I can't find a web client?

Guess you’re right.

Sure, and telegram does too. I was responding to someone talking about iMessage

I can’t really tell the difference between signal telegram teams discord et al.

But messages falls back to sms and that I can notice.

Tried it in the early days where Whatsapp was buyed by facebook. Signal lost messages in group chats, Signal lost messages in normal chats.

Thats was the way to my blacklist. Droped Signal caused by unreliability.

Additionally, same as now iMessage, close out of other clients. Other asshole, same shit.

> Tried it in the early days where Whatsapp was buyed by facebook.

Wasn't that in 2014, so literally 9 years ago? Things are pretty different now.

Signal group chats are shit by comparison.

I've been using Signal since it was Text Secure and Red Phone. I've got most of my friend group switched over to it

British-American here. WhatsApp is very good despite its owners. Way better than anything else which is why we continue to use it for group chats.

There’s no other good group chat encrypted option for both iPhone and Android.

I really don't want to give meta any of my business.