Paul Graham's Twitter account targeted by IDF
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Only brining it up because I would like to discuss the topic and not create a flame war in the process.
If you can't compromise his account you create a shit-storm or spew fake info to discredit
https://jackpoulson.substack.com/p/inside-the-pro-israel-inf...
I am Jewish, appalled by Paul’s tweets, but lazy and don’t do anything about it.
I fail to see how other Jewish people, that are similarly appalled, but more activist in nature about trying to work together to push back on rising antisemitism, is anything nefarious.
"I fail to see how other Chinese people, who are similarly appalled but more activist in nature about trying to work together to push back on rising anti-chinese sentiment, is anything nefarious."
"I fail to see how other Saudi people, who are similarly appalled but more activist in nature about trying to work together to push back on rising anti-saudi sentiment, is anything nefarious."
...Once a state actor is involved, you have become the devil you swore to fight.
Kinda telling on yourself there tbh.
Needless to say this goes equally for both sides of the argument.
Dang has actively called me out on doing what I did today before - which is react to what amounts to racist and xenophobic posts that are allowed on HN.
1. Paul has, all on his own, decided to wade into an extremely controversial political topic.
2. Many Jewish people (not including myself, until now) have publicly called him out on how they perceive his tweets.
3. Paul has now publicly accused, on a tweet with 1.3M views, the reactions to his tweets as manufactured "astroturfing", leading to someone else posting it here.
4. The person that I responded to said that it's important to know that "someone is trashing his reputation" and the title to this thread says he was "targeted by IDF".
My point was solely that Paul is, on his own volition, saying things that are organically hurting and upsetting the Jewish community. I use myself as an example: someone who is hurt by his tweets, because I read them and respected Paul, not because the IDF instructed me to.
I'm sure you disagree with my take on his tweets - and I highly doubt debating the specifics of it will get us anywhere productive - but it's not flame bait to point out that he chose to speak, and that real Jewish people found the way he speaks to be hurtful, not because of some grand coordinated IDF-directed conspiracy. In other words, he is "trashing his reputation" with the Jewish community by his words, not as a result of an astroturfed reaction. You can debate whether the Jewish community is over-reacting and misreading him if you want, but my point was narrowly directed to the fact that he is the one causing that reaction.
As an imperfect analogy, see “all lives matter” or similarly controversial statements that, taken literally, appear harmless.
Brah. HN is a tech posting newsfeed hosted by a startup incubator. There are some very clear biases here, esp. to making a fuck-ton of money.
It is also wayyyyy behind other social media sites for stopping obvious spam and shillbots.
ain't no welfare of all goin on here.
I share your concerns, but maybe we should concentrate on this particular issue when it comes to this particular comment section, because simply bringing this up isn't really adding to the conversation.
State actors should get the fuck off our web. Unfortunately, they are unlikely to.
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2023/08/21/well-well-well-meaning...
>The term dog whistle is regularly used as a covert form of Ad Hominem that I find logically annoying, basically "ignore everything this person said because" insert assumption of what was meant and derogatory term about political affiliation.
I view the phrase as "I can't find something to attack in what ideological opponent said, so I'm going to pretend that what he said actually means something else, and attack that instead".
If you say “the globalist vermin who secretly control Hollywood and the media” or “urban thugs and welfare queens”, we know what that actually means.
There are genuine dog whistles out there.