Elon Musk demands Bob Iger 'be fired' after Disney pulled ads from X
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Elon seems to have felt untouchable for a long time. There is a limit to how much people will overlook in the pursuit of money but let's be real here - Disney is trying to portray itself as a family company. Basically anything that happens on Twitter at this point is pretty much not family friendly. Elon being Elon might have given Disney an easy excuse to back out of ad buys on a platform they don't see a large enough target market using.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/new-mexico-sues-meta-ceo-zucke...
If you look at how Meta spends money, they spend billions per year in moderation and brand-safety technology and people and processes.
Meanwhile, in the Twitter -> X transformation, these roles were all but eliminated.
And yes, one CEO says "it is important we get this right" and the other one says "fuck it all", then it's more "signaling priorities" than "virtue signaling".
Also, you forgot the bit about how much Meta spends on lawyers suing federal agencies so they can use data they scraped from their underage users:
https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2023-11-30...
And this is what they're doing with data they illegally harvested from children: https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2023-11-30...
(and there are many more examples)
And also yes, I am using evidence of how they spend their money as an indication of their intent. It’s the embodiment of putting their money where their mouth is.
https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/31/23005576/facebook-content...
If they think association with Musk makes them look bad then they won't buy ads on his platform.
If Bob has a personal problem with Musk, then let it be know. I could totally understand that, especially after Musk's recent interviews.
But hiding behind a virtue signalling flex when Disney are actively supporting platforms that are as bad or worse is straight up hypocrisy.
Even if we ignore the child abuse and focus on antisemitism, it doesn't take long to find out how bad Facebook is:
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58058428 Anti-Semitic social posts 'not taken down' in 80% of cases - 2 August 2021 "Facebook was the worst performer, CCDH said, failing to act on 89% of posts."
Similar articles can be found on The Guardian, NPR, and many others.
That's exactly what's going on here.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/disney-s-iger-take...
"By him taking the position that he took in quite a public manner, we just felt that the association with that position, and with Elon Musk, and X was not necessarily a positive one for us and we decided we would pull our advertising."
This is in reference Musk's 'anti-Semitic' tweet. So instead of just voting with his wallet, Bob has turned it into a virtue flex, which would also be fine if they weren't actively supporting other platforms that are known to be far worse. (And that's ignoring Meta's issues with child abuse)
No. There's no need to flex anything. All he's done is distance Disney from the bad smell around Musk and Twitter.
If that's all Bob Iger needs to do to make Disney look better (or at least avoid looking worse) then maybe Musk should have a think about getting himself under control.
Pretending to do the right thing whilst actively doing the exact opposite might make Disney look better to anyone not paying attention but it's not marketing, it's just lying.
Through his antics, his moronic public statements, and the changes he made to the platform, Musk created the conditions that resulted in Disney pulling its advertising from Twitter.
The End.
All that remains for Musk to do now is to grow up and take responsibility for this outcome.
But, given that he has told his customers to "go fuck themselves", it seems unlikely that he will take responsibility any time soon.
Gotcha. One rule for me and another for thee.
It says a lot about people when they'd prefer to believe a comfortable lie, than be told an uncomfortable truth.
I never once defended Musk's idiocy, but you've made it clear that you have no problems with child abuse, anti-Semitism, or hypocrisy.
Best of luck to ya.
> The End.
You're bounding off into the irrelevant tundra, desperately hoping that it is somehow relevant to Disney not advertising on Twitter.
It isn't.
Commenting on Disney paying money to an antisemetic company that distributes child abuse material is irrelevant in a thread about Disney not paying money to an allegedly antisemetic company.
Sorry, I suppose it's another "whataboutism"...
You are profoundly confused.
What an absurdly childish response to GP’s comments. GP has made none of those things “clear” and it’s disgusting that you would stoop to such a gross, inflammatory accusation because you’re upset about an internet argument.
Grow up or log off. This crap is a really, really ugly look for you.
It's an ugly look for me to suggest that someone has strange priorities if they're defending Disney for paying money to an antisemetic company that distributes child abuse material? I guess we're only allowed to judge antisemetic companies if they're owned by Elon Musk...
It's an ugly look for you to look the other way. Silence is violence remember.
You spinning that into “actually that means you approved of CSAM” is teenage Twitter bullshit, frankly. Again, grow up.
Dunno which bit of twitter you're on, but my corner has been family friendly pretty much forever.
And also, there's this: https://www.thestreet.com/investing/disney-has-a-plan-to-tar...
(Of course, possibly it doesn't do the Musk hyperpromotion thing anymore.)
So weird that he is diving into these attacks.
Either he is ignorant, or he knows and is trying to keep above water by pushing others down.
OTOH, Twitter was mainly a gossip rag a year or two ago, more amusing than entertaining, and it has gone downhill steadily since. Nothing like the kind of fact-checking you would need from a reliable information source, and the overall appeal just isn't the same any more. And that was people who loved Twitter.
Disney has had many questionable content decisions over the years. I would not put them on a pedestal any more then Elon and Twitter
No company is perfect, but what-about-isms trying to equate everything when someones preferred company is clearly deficient is just so lame.
People are talking about the bad things both companies do in these threads, where do you see the whataboutism?
From the comment guidelines
> Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.
I'm not sure Musk which company Musk's referring to here...