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Pricing seems to be $10/mo or $100/yr.

Personally I find that a bit steep when I'm already paying $100/yr for the Rider IDE (multi year concurrent discounted rate). Commercial pricing is $250/yr+ for just the IDE.

I know that's about the same as Github Copilot, but the downside to Jetbrains is if I switch to another IDE to get AI features (ie VSCode), then I'll stop paying their IDE subscription as well.

Edit: It also doesn't seem like the free trial is available to an individual subscription holder, only commercial subscriptions.

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That's for individual use, VAT-exclusive. For business licenses, that's 240€/yr with VAT. It's really steep.

Its always better to use the integration that works best with your IDE. What’s wrong with switching?

I feel like $10/mo is incredibly cheap for something that offers more utility than a coffee.

I bet you can get more utility from a $10 coffee if you are making it at home/office. That doesn't mean the price isn't good, I just hate the coffee comparison so much I couldn't resist replying.

What? No, I don’t understand your reply at all. I wouldn’t value a one off coffee greater than a month of AI assistance. In fact, I could compile a long list of things that I pay 10$/month for that are less valuable.

You’re a developer - no matter how low your salary is, 10$ is incredibly cheap.

> I wouldn’t value a one off coffee greater than a month of AI assistance.

My point is that if you are making coffee and not buying it ready from some expensive place just because the name then $10 wouldn't give only two cups. I bet you might spend about $10 per whole month in many places if you making it yourself.

> You’re a developer - no matter how low your salary is, 10$ is incredibly cheap.

That's a good argument, my point was not saying that price is expensive. Just the coffee comparison is not true. Also one can talk about people working as programmers outside NA and EU but well probably they will probably not be using jetbrains IDEs but they are free for students. I really hoped they would have some education discount.

If you want to make coffee at home, sure the amortized cost could be less than $10/mo. But, I wouldn’t consider that a fair comparison - probably running a code LLM locally could also turn out cheaper.

We’re talking about paying others for the work instead of doing it ourselves. If not a coffee, eating out at a restaurant or buying an tshirt - anything can easily blow through $10 in one go.

The problem is that the upfront GPU hardware is expensive, both for training and inference. You could save on electricity by relocating datacenters, but probably wouldn’t make a big difference. Sadly, geo-based pricing might be difficult for LLMs.

The thing is that every service on Earth is marketing itself as "it’s only $10/mo, the price of three coffees!!1!".

trial for commercial means for paying customers, including individuals.

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