TÜV vehicle report 2024 – Tesla Model 3, most issues (German)
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Ah, okay confusing. The original link is about quality issues. The individual statistics are about breakdown statistics.
So quality wise, checked by the TÜV (prerequisite for operating a vehicle in Germany) - not good.
Breakdown statistics, tracked by the ADAC (largest automotive club in Germany) - excellent.
The first checks whether it is safe to drive with this specific car on German streets. The second is about how often the ADAC had to help people whose cars broke down.
And 21x more for same comparison with model year 2019!
So not all cars have excellent statistics.
I suppose those inspection failures are often about unused break pads. Perhaps Tesla should prompt the user to occasionally use breaks to keep them from rusting?
>> To ensure brakes remain responsive in cold and wet weather, Model 3 is equipped with brake disc wiping. When cold and wet weather is detected, this feature repeatedly applies an imperceptible amount of brake force to remove water from the surface of the brake discs.
The average Tesla has driven almost twice as far as most of the top 10
The chart on the "TÜV-Report" seems to be what percentage of cars turned out to have a problem when routinely checked in a garage.
OPs article refers to a report by TÜV which inspects cars every 3 (for older cars every two years) to ensure that they dont have any flaws and are compliant with regulation. This inspection is mandatory in Germany.
source: am German, but not a subject matter expert.
Usually this sort of thing only happens to the handbrake, e.g. to drivers of vehicles with an automatic transmission that place a lot of faith in the performance of their transmission's parking pawl.
If this sounds weird you probably haven't driven in Germany.
I love driving there, but if there's one country where I'd buy that a substantial number of drivers are OCD enough to have trained themselves to literally never press the brake pedal, it's the Germans.
Or everyone else sorts out the charging network. Either works for me.
There does seem to be a lot of innovation for innovations sake at Tesla. Like putting in a yoke style steering wheel but not actually going the whole hog to make the turning response dynamic. Or moving critical features into the on screen menus.
I'll keep using old car models that don't require child laborers removing several tons of material from the earth to satiate my personal environmental sanctimoniousness.
So no car, then? Gasoline vehicles use cobalt and rare earths too.
If you were actually serious, you'd be driving an EV with LFP batteries and induction motors.
Do you have a source for your claim that cobalt/rare-earths are used in conventional cars to the same extent as electric?
And my point all up is that no new vehicles should be mined/built/purchased, at least while any old reasonably efficient one remains drivable. And that is what I have done. Pulling a bunch of lithium out of the earth isn't better than simply using what we already have made.
Your point about used cars is a good one, but cars are relatively fungible. Almost every purchase of a used car causes a new car to be built & sold.
And have you recanted the statement that ICE cars use cobalt and rare-earths anywhere near as much as electrics do?
> Almost every purchase of a used car causes a new car to be built & sold.
No, the only cause of a new car being built and sold is an individual deciding that a new car is a good choice for them. Them selling their old car is a result of that same decision, not a cause. And that decision comes more and more nowadays from a misguided impression that "my old car is bad for the environment, I must buy a new environmentally friendly one to be a good person".
When you buy a used car, you increase demand, raising prices for used cars. This makes new cars relatively more attractive.
Edit: I see now that it is in fact 1,400 PPM of some intermediary matte, not raw ore. Th matte/ore ratio is not stated. But that matte is nickel/copper rich, and the platinum is in some sense a impurity in the existing ore that would likely be mined for its other metals anyways.
Even still: not all ore is equal. Platinum mining is a heavily industrialized process where machines do the hard labor, cobalt is child labor camps digging.
The latest example is that the physical buttons to change gears on the Cybertruck are located in the ceiling near the rear view mirror.
edit: Downvote me all you like but just look at what for example VW did in the emissions scandal. Not like anyone went to jail for that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal
Oh, and execs quite literally did go to prison: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-southkorea-idU....
* there has been some work to get something similar to a class action law suit against VW going but it's hardly the same severity or consumer protection like in the US.
15% of Model 3's fail the mandatory audit after 2 years due to 'considerable defects'.
It does not tall us much unless we would also get some information on how expensive it is to fix the problem.
A 5% problem rate can be worse than a 15% rate if the cars in the 5% category have issues that are more than 3x more expensive to fix.
The inspection is very rigorous, btw.