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Scrolled the homepage until I saw "...earn a new digital currency" - then immediately closed the tab. Dead on arrival.

One of the biggest things I hate about crypto is how it sucked all the air out of “decentralization.” Now people hear that and think “oh another scam coin.”

“Local first” and “federated” are perhaps more accurate anyway.

Indeed, crypto made the world a harder place for projects with good intention. We aim to build a truly decentralized, peer to peer cloud infrastructure that you can connect to or even replicate on your own terms, and yet familiar to developers and system admins by providing the tools they love for provisioning and managing their workloads.

The whole system is 100% opensource, you can run it on your own terms (we would be happy if other people based on our work and expanded further)

We are moving to support fiat as well, as well. You can literally build anything (we recently built a students platform to deploy their workloads without concerns about tokenomics)

Tokenomics aside, I'm sure https://manual.grid.tf will show very interesting bit, And please keep in mind that the system works .. quite well actually (and it's opensource if you like the idea, and don't like the execution :)

Repost this to HN when a more normal fiat based pricing model exists or … not a new token but at least, at least, satoshis or something like bits of btc.

Is that part mandatory?

Developers: https://manual.grid.tf/developers/developers.html

Sysadmins: https://manual.grid.tf/system_administrators/system_administ...

Edit: added sysadmin and..

Haven’t finished reading yet, but generally the internet is never free and always costs some one. I’d be concerned how it would be paid for.

The system is completely opensource, the team would be even more the willing to help you to build your own clouds separate from the current main one, and even can guide you if you ever wanted to change how the payment works. We are already at the point of designing the 4th iteration of the system. Too many believed in our vision and connected their capacity to make it reality.

There're various definitions of free, e.g it will cost power and bandwidth for sure, but free as in totally decentralized as owned by the people? they get to decide how and where their workloads are hosted :) you can connect a server in your basement and I deploy my workloads on it or you can even host your website (trusting other human beings on your own terms :) )

Same thing. Came to comment “we are so back”

No offense to the creators, I appreciate anyone shipping something new, but this has been tried many times without success. HNT being the largest example.

Also, isn’t ICP be the same concept?

Yeah ICP/Dfinity was one of the originals to target cloud computing on a blockchain platform, with one of the biggest budgets, highest profile backers (A16Z), and strongest engineering teams in the business (they poached IBM Zurich’s research lab). But it’s not taking off. The concept seems either not viable for reasons, or its too ahead of its time. Anyone attempting a new version needs a clear value proposition that’s different from prior attempts.

It's not taking off because their marketing is incredibly deceptive and there was a report showing that there was probably a planned retail dump shortly after launch allowing lots of backers to pull out. It's not really decentralized in any meaningful sense and they misuse terminology (like what the term "node" means, among other things) in order to give the appearance otherwise.

Hi! Thank you for taking the time I'm actually not aware of any project that was more complete, delivering on such scale like threefold.

I'm not sure I know ICP, it'd be great if you could link, It's always good opportunity to understand more

Internet Computer, should come up on Google

Exactly this. DOA for me too.

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