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That’s quite astonishing. In just a few years this might even be generalized to work for characters other than conventionally attractive young women.

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There are a couple males (under Human, click 4th dot) and an ironman robot too (first under Humanoid).

Hey, they're demonstrating it's working for overly sexualised cartoon characters too!

There's no such thing as "oversexualized", stop shaming people for being normal. Your harassment is not welcome here.

> There's no such thing as "oversexualized"

There is, when we're talking about characters made to look like children.

Right? And the audacity to claim calling them out is harassment is just uhm … creepy to say the least.

Oversexualised used this way refers as much to an industry/society as individual people. For example, while individual sex workers might have autonomy and we can respect their choices, we can still notice that our culture creates a situation where women are primarily given value for their physical attributes, above others, and that this applies less to men.

keep jerking off to cartoons weirdo

This comment thread is peak derangement. They chose anime girls because that's where we have the most comprehensive close-to-homogenous visual data available. Nothing more, nothing less.

To call this comment deranged is to misrepresent the context entirely, and also be extremely naive about the selection of videos for the paper. Yes it's possibly a bit snarky, but quite funny too. It's certainly what I was thinking when I looked at the results: this paper is written in field which doesn't have many women in it! I think it's highly likely this will get more exposure because of the choice of examples. Yes they have a robot too — but there aren't any "normal looking" people doing dances.

What do you mean there are not any normal looking people doing dances? The individuals shown on the page might be considered attractive by some but they are not abnormal for that.

My thoughts exactly. I am not sure why so many working in ai are obsessed with child looking anime characters, or in some cases, sexualised human looking animals. I have a few suspicions and i find the trend at least disturbing.

You really want that to be a comment you make on revolutionary new tech? Think of what you’d think of finding dismissive comments like that about the invention of the telephone

For ML questioning the data seems okay

I'll go one further. The uncomfortable fixation on attractive women for the models is only an inkling of what is to be the primary application of such technology which will be porn. No matter how amazing that tech underlying these animated stills may be be the race for the lowest common denominator is already shining through on their examples. Don't think for one moment they didn't choose those on purpose. They know where it's heading.

Porn isn't the lowest common denominator. Advertising is. Which they more than hint at through the explicit mentions of fashion applications and comparisons to other models in this space.

People who thinking porn is anywhere near the worst application are, IMO, letting their sensibilities cloud their judgement.

I agree with OP: having a demo video that's 90% pretty young ladies is a bad look.

I want to show this demo to people, but I'm honestly slightly embarrassed to do so because it's such an obvious example of the male gaze. It's kind of tacky, and it distracts from the extremely impressive technology that's being demonstrated.

These shitty dances are all over TikTok, more than 90% of which are women (in fact, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a man doing one).

There are a ton of men doing dances on TikTok. They just don’t get shown to you because the algorithm knows what keeps your attention.

I'd love to see how this imagen works for some of the complex footwork or acrobatics videos that trend. Testing the limits with extreme poses would be quite interesting.

Yea they definitely should've thrown in some ugly ones in there

More specifically, if you claim to be able to “animate anyone”, why wouldn’t you demonstrate a diverse set of characters? A mix of ages, genders, skin colors, body shapes, and abilities, a well as a mix of photos and various illustration styles.

This exactly. An in reply to GP -- I enjoy showing tech demos like this to my teenage boys and did also feel slightly embarrassed sending them this one. At least it's the opportunity this evening for a conversation about it.

You’re arguing that this moment is important in history and the parent is arguing that if true, the a less superficial subject should be presented to demonstrate.

When I see all this generative AI stuff, most people are excited about generating manga, computer games and porn.

I know it’s exciting if you’re into consuming media. But I think the average person would look at this “breathtaking moment” and be surprised computers couldn’t do this already, honestly.

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