NY woman clears $108M of other people's medical debt – after dying of cancer
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> Because they buy debt bundles at a steep discount, RIP says each donation relieves about 100 times its value in medical debt.
I'm no economist, but am I correct in assuming that if this charity became large or well-funded enough to address any significant percentage of the problem, that the discount would disappear?
For the people they help, it's great, and at their current scale it probably doesn't move the needle regarding the huge problem with medical insurance, billing, pricing and debt we have in America today. But if they get more donations and keep doing this on a larger scale will it move the needle? And if so, in which direction?
Their ceiling is essentially everyone that is extremely likely to declare bankruptcy because they’re unable to pay the debts. The actual owners of the debt are not gonna get any money back. Even a 3rd party is not likely to buy the debt because the only people who are gonna pay for this debt are charities like this and they aren’t required to do so, so they get to completely set the market rate.
Essentially, you have a lender that’s lent out $100 in medical debt to people who are basically bankrupt and is likely to get no money back.
A 3rd party might gamble that they will probably get $1 back so they may be willing to pay $0.75. However, this charity can offer the lender $1.25 and actually get $0 back because their purpose isn’t to make money (they can also “lose” money). Their purpose is to either prevent someone from going into bankruptcy or removes a huge burden on people who may already have declared bankruptcy.
What actually makes this system work is a properly functioning bankruptcy court. If the bankruptcy court didn’t effectively protect borrowers, then there would be no incentive to sell the debt for so cheap since you could try and extract money out of the borrowers. Alternatively, if the bankruptcy court was easily abused to discharge debt by people who can afford it, then lenders would exit the medical debt industry altogether (or rather, all treatments would end up requiring upfront payment).
Conceptually you can think of the 2% average profit as a market rate - if it ever goes too low some debt collectors will go out of business (due to inherent risk of business), and too high more competitors will spring up. Indeed in an efficient market this % on average is constant across different types of businesses too. Here you can think of recoup % - profit % = price of the debt %, as an output of profitability rather than input into profitability. So if anything, more charity purchases would put debt collectors out of business as the profit equilibrium shrinks. but this may have the effect of debt collectors innovating / cutting costs which could be detrimental. Apologies for structure all done on mobile before bed
But by attacking the most discounted debt they're also relieving those least able to pay from having it hanging over them first.
Anyone can point out that the system sucks. It's not clever nor is it hard.
I would imagine there is a rating system so that whether your debt is worth 99%, 50%, or 1% actually depends on some personal information like what your job is, employer, age, and so on.
Thus the very low value debt is basically valued correctly, the win is simply a kind of nominal/value confusion much like the nominal value of an option is not the same thing as what you pay to buy it.
I’ve long believed that cash payers should be charged the lowest negotiated rate for services. It's a scam that insurance companies pay so much less than a cash payer.
There is something incredibly wrong with how we provide and pay for medical care in the US, and it’s seemingly impossible to do anything about it.
>and it’s seemingly impossible to do anything about it
Just in the past few years, we've had transparent pricing laws that drove down prices quite a bit. Something tells me that outlawing lobbyists would go a long way.
This study doesn't include all the death caused by opioid over prescription, btw.
It is great if you can afford to go to the Cleveland or Mayo Clinics, but if you're not able you be stuck with dangerous service