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I just can’t help think how much wider the global support for the west (incl eg ukraine) would be today if Kissinger’s “we can do war crimes and install dictators all we like cause we’re the good guys” doctrine hadn’t made it to the forefront of US policy. Even from a hardcore neorealist perspective, the harm has by now well outlasted the benefit.

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Kissinger is on record (from WEF/Davos of all places) as having criticized the West's position in the Ukraine-Russia conflict. The only reason he swum against the tide was because he was 98 at the time and probably doesn't give a shit what anybody thinks of him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOZw0zGFvzI

He's a monster and I'm glad he's dead but he was spot on about the inevitable outcome in Ukraine and how sanctions and enmity have pushed Russia even further into china's loving embrace.

> Kissinger is on record (from WEF/Davos of all places) as having criticized the West's position in the Ukraine-Russia conflict. The only reason he swum against the tide was because he was 98 at the time and probably doesn't give a shit what anybody thinks of him.

Kissinger’s support for accepting Russian imperialist crimes against prace and war crimes in Ukraine is grounded in the same realpolitik as his advocacy of US imperialist crimes against peace and war crimes throughout his career, and his advice on tape to Nixon in the 70s about the plight of Jees trying to flee persecution in the USSR that even if rose to the level of gas chambers, it shouldn't be considered a US concern.

> Kissinger’s support for accepting Russian imperialist crimes against peace and war crimes in Ukraine is grounded in the same realpolitik as his advocacy of US imperialist crimes against peace and war crimes throughout his career

yes, that was my point, he's not deluded by western propaganda and was able to call what's happening there correctly as a result

Realpoliticans are always playing for the autoritarian team, as it flattens the playing field, giving up the moral high ground, one of the reasons russian bots desperatly push it as the "default" mindset. Got to turn everyone a psychopathic maniac out for themselves, to justify being one.

“ incl eg ukraine” is in the wrong place. It should be here:

“We can support war crimes and install really bad regimes (incl eg ukraine) all we like cause we’re the good guys”.

Otherwise OK.

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