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>We can't even make non-meat meat that's as cheap as meat and you didn't even have to grow or feed the cow.

In the US if you remove the government subsidies from meat production the price of a pound of ground beef jumps ~500%.

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I tried following the footnote to see where they got their numbers and the link is dead. I can’t find anybody that has numbers that look reliable for subsidies to the meat industry. Can anybody point me to some?

Thats so obviously ridiculous on its face, it's not even worth answering. In what nation is ground beef 5x the price of USA?

Yeah, you're right. I suppose I can charitably interpret that number as removing the subsidies that also assist other farmers, but that makes the number far less useful for comparison.

Switzerland and South Korea have exceptionally expensive beef prices, sometimes 300% > US prices, but I'm hesitant to bring them up. I suspect that's more attributable to the availability of farmland and food prices in general than to the absence of subsidy for meat production.

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