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Id just like to know if the people who buy things on that ecommerce can look themselves in a mirror, if they can detach themselves from the pain caused to workers and other people just by clearing their conscience because it should be someone else to regulate or get better contract, sometimes I wish that the hell of dante is true and there is a group made for the ignavi for real where they can suffer the same pain that is suffered for their ignorance

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This is not a personal or a moral problem. It is a political problem and must be solved through legislation.

Now we can always think about the origin of that political problem as cultural. The free markets, trickle down economics, "pull yourself by your own bootstrap", labor union as a greedy mafia etc. All this encouraged the thinking that regulation and worker protection must be eliminated.

Shaming people is not going to work. Informing them and encouraging common political action will.

But it has also to be made somehow a personal problem, you can’t exist by keep enabling what’s wrong justifying yourself that politics should solve it, at a global level its a political problem, at a personal level its a personal problem, when you read so much shit about this company, how can you keep using it?

I hate to brake it to you, but those same conditions exist everywhere in every supply chain. Or how do you think products end up in store shelfs?

I hate to break it to you, but there is no doctor’s order that say you must buy anything, it is perfectly fine to exist without consuming, and there are few ethical companies that at least try, or a middle ground between ethics and suppressing unions, etc

A very urban take. Here where I am in a semi-rural place, there are no specialty shops. At least beyond tea and furniture. So if Walmart doesn't carry the products my child needs in order to bath and not have her skin split open and bleed, what should I do? When I was injured after the birth of my kid and couldn't drive, I guess my kid should have starved rather than have amazon deliver a monthly supply of formula. I definitely couldn't drive and covid make support difficult.

Maybe I'm just weird and and specific, but I've found that often Amazon is the only place to get specialty items. Walmart and gang killed a lot of businesses and what's left often only sell via Amazon. Mail order has been the name of the game in rural areas forever. I don't agree with what's happening in the article, but realistically I'm going to keep ordering my high quality supplements that keep the brain fog from covid away and other stuff.

I think you're right, I apologise for my superficial take. But it is also not right to justify everything with a exception take, the volume of business of amazon cannot be made of people far away from everything in rural areas, I think there is people who don't have access to shops, but I don't think it's the majority

Also there must be other ecommerces around that dont exist the same way amazon exist and serve rural areas?

>it is perfectly fine to exist without consuming

So did you borrow someone else's device to post this?

There are also companies that try to have an ethical existence, beware that here i targeted customers of amazon, not customers of everything

> I hate to break it to you, but there is no doctor’s order that say you must buy anything, it is perfectly fine to exist without consuming

That's a very extreme Hobson's choice. Sure there's no "doctor's order," but you can't actually do that without being a subsistence farmer or hunter-gatherer. And you'd have to be a squatter, because if you own land you'll have to pay taxes on it, and there's no way you're going to be able to do that without buying anything in the broader economy.

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