A group of scientists set out to study quick learners. Then saw they don't exist
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"The fastest quarter of students improved their accuracy on each concept (or knowledge component) by about 2.6 percentage points after each practice attempt, while the slowest quarter of students improved by about 1.7 percentage points."
That's a small difference in a single incremental component, but it represents a difference in learning rate of a whopping 35%; over ten practice attempt, the fast learner would've accumulated 26 percentage points of improvement, the slow learner only 17 percentage points. And there is a bit of a compounding effect, as the accumulated advantage of the fast learner would unlock progress on additional components that the slower learner lacked enough background for.
Add these two effects over the thousands of components that would make up a curriculum throughout a K-12 career and it wouldn't surprise me if you had top learners accumulating over twice the progress of their slower learning peers, and much of that knowledge would be in higher value components inaccessible to the slower learning students (eg, learning calculus and AP biology over geometry and basic science).
I'm sure The Hechinger Report wants to promote the idea that achievement gaps can be closed by simply giving The Hechinger Report more funding.
I’m not sure about this. Could you give an example (any subject) that would help me understand?
There is a component of most domains where you figure out the fundamental building blocks and you can learn a bunch of different branches in any order without much overlap, but that’s usually after the initial mastery equivalent to math’s calculus.
I could see plenty of real world impacts of course. Discouragement / encouragement due to peer comparisons, limited availability of resources like teachers, etc.
I will say that a student who consistently learns slightly faster and over the course of their entire education ends up drastically more skilled as a result would definitely be a faster learner, but that seems more muted than most people's intuitions of a "fast learner" or someone with a "knack" for a subject.
I guess I see the glass as half full, because that’s easy to overcome.
If a top learner is only 30% better, an average person could study for an hour and a half instead of an hour and easily surpass them. Time management is the ultimate superpower, and it’s something you can get better at, not something you are born with.
They would need to do this consistently every day for their entire school career.
Also, what if it's exactly this behaviour that creates the top (book) learners to begin with?
In my experience, most people just don't have any interest or motivation to sit and work hard on book learning things every single day for years on end.
Some people want to do work on practical stuff, others want to spend their time on athletics, and yet others want to spend time involved in social activities say creating music or other kinds of performance art etc.
It means that some will effectively be at grade 8 level in grade 12, that is not easy to overcome.
> an average person could study for an hour and a half instead of an hour and easily surpass them
That is just for homework, you won't get 50% longer schooldays. 50% more work means you have to spend many hours extra every day to learn as much as the faster kids do just by going to class. And that time is lower quality, you make much better connections when you don't strain yourself by spending all day studying.
I was regularly hamstrung by curriculae because I learned quickly. Schools chose to throw a bunch of busywork at me instead of deepening or questioning my understanding. "Your peers aren't on that yet." I don't care what my peers are doing. They made their decision about me years ago. If school can't be intellectually challenging then what's the damn point.
https://support.khanacademy.org/hc/en-us/articles/1150026831...
To churn out proletariats who will be happy and replaceable little cogs in the capitalist machine.
No, for real, schools follow the same damn paradigm established in the Industrial Revolution. They have no interest in deepening your understanding and you can see that in the people hired to teach.
I've developed quite a cynical view of the world, with each new truth that's revealed about our society and the nature of people, my faith and trust lowers. But is it really cynical if, everywhere you look, you find evidence of its truth?
Rhetorical question but I think about it daily.
I think that the broader society doesn’t encourage those who seek knowledge for the sake of knowledge, the know-it-alls, it doesn’t promote curiosity because curious minds question everything and leave no stone untouched, you don’t want that, you dont want people questioning your authority or capacity to rule metaphorical kingdoms.
But I don’t think this view implies something sinister either. I think it just shows how much trauma we carry through from our upbringing. I don’t think the average person wakes up and chooses some form of punishment for others.
I think ultimately we are all just trying to live some decent lives, and part of that includes avoiding confrontation with our shortcomings because that’s a difficult thing to do, especially if you are not used to.
Training people to follow instructions is a necessary kind of education. You can already see problems forming as a result of how education has changed in the last few years. Lots of people who can code but a massive shortage of anyone who can put up drywall or service a boiler.
I love problem solving but the trades do not look like a healthy place to work.
It sounds like students were pre-tested, given instruction, and then post-tested. The researchers assume that students who did better on a pre-test were solely leveraging prior knowledge. The researchers do not consider that higher pre-test scores could have been due to the ability of some students to discern the correct answer from context, analogies, or first principles. Students who are able to do so would be seen as "quick learners" by their teachers and peers — though not by these researchers. These students would not need as much time to master all of the content in a lesson, since they would grasp perhaps 50% more of it than their peers right out of the gate.
The researchers focus on the fact that these students appear to learn the additional bits at roughly the same rate as their peers. But of course, if they have much less left to cover in a given lesson, then they will be done with the lesson well before their peers. By most definitions, this makes them 'quicker learners', assuming their initial performance was not based solely on prior knowledge, but was also based on their ability to figure out some of the material from the initial questions themselves.
Also, one would assume that the last parts of a lesson are the hardest to learn, so a student who understood 90% of the lesson at first might still be learning the last 10% faster than a student who came into the lesson understanding 50% of the lesson (when such student gets to the 90% point). However, the student who student who starts at 90% might appear to learn at the same rate as the other student because the other student is getting the 'low-hanging fruit' and moving from 50% to 60%. This should not be considered equivalent to moving from 90% to 100%.
It's very frustrating with these studies because they don't attempt to normalize anything at all. Imagine teaching derivatives and finding that some students learn faster than others. Their excuse? Oh it must be because they did fractions when making pancakes.
One of the easiest ways to create a replicable study, which they won't ever do, would be to place students who have no experience typing (which is common for every generation) and see which ones learn fastest. If you are bothered by this then we can do learning piano, filtering out any student which may have musical practice ahead of time. It would be easy to find. Hypothesis would be that those with higher IQ have a higher rate of mastery.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I'm not sure that single study meets the bar.
It is certainly a valid issue to measure starting point as well as ending point to measure learning rates, but to claim that this entirely accounts for apparent differences in learning rates such that there are no differences exceeding 1% just strains credulity.
Just looking at my own learning rates on different fields I can see myself picking up some things far faster than other things, and the reverse in friends and family (e.g., quickly picking up things I'm slower to learn).
Seems more like an intriguing start to more research rather than the conclusive tone presented in the article.
It's interesting to look back in time at things you did that maybe didn't add much to your schema/knowledge bank. Also interesting to look around at what others focused on.
Reality is that I had been programming in C++, fortran and DSL for over a decade.
Similar examples from colleagues in college and schoolmates. People with strong foundations seem to learn faster, but the reality is that there is past effort that you don’t see.
This. Always this.
While you may disagree with labels, there is a positive correlation between intrinsic motivation and intelligence.
Now, would I say natural aptitude is negligible or non-existent, as the headline does? No, I don't think a single study is that definitive (and it did find a difference, just a small one).
Unfortunately now I can't find where I read that despite extensive searching. I want to say it was attributed to Maslow.
Anyway, this article claims the exact opposite by saying people learn at the same rates.
Actress Marilu Henner, best known for her role as Elaine Nardo in the hit sitcom Taxi, has a highly superior autobiographical memory (HSAM), a rare condition shared by only 100 people worldwide.
I suspect those 100 people would be able to learn certain material faster than others.
I'm also curious about people who have learned mnemonic tricks. I've seen people memorize the order of the US Presidents in just a few minutes once they are taught a memory trick...
But yeah, the point of the article, in my mind, is that nothing beats investing a lot of time in especially in early childhood exposing people to all kinds of learning opportunities.
that explains the smell.
I wouldn't consider myself an expert in non-natural science, even though I do understand some of it to an extent.
So I could take this at face value, it's quite plausible that nobody has ever been fast.
This fully explains the confirmation of different learning rates universally observed over the millennia, we're all just different degrees of slow.
The underlying study is not about just rate of learning, but rate of learning under favorable conditions.
The article describes where the data comes from:
> In particular, we model learning using 27 datasets with over 1.3 million student performance observations from 6,946 learners in 12 different courses ranging across math, science, and language learning, across educational levels from late elementary to college, and across educational technologies including intelligent tutoring systems, educational games, and online courses
And the authors argue this is favorable learning conditions because of providing things like immediate feedback on errors, etc..
Lots of room for nuance, but "favorable learning conditions" is key here.