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If I were Musk, I'd just shut down the whole operation in Sweden. It is not like the country is particularily big.

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Only the 5th largest country, ans by doing so they might shut down their 4th largest country, Norway, as well.

less than 10% of US sales

5th largest country by what measure? It's definitely not even in the top 50 by population nor by the territory.

5th largest country by revenue. By the "population" or "territory" logic, Russia, India and China should be the most important markets for Tesla (they are not).

China is not? Tesla's revenue from the US is double that from China and from China is more than from the rest of the world yet Sweden is so important?

I believe this is what will happen. The Swedish unions can’t budge, and Elon won’t budge, so there’s really no other solution to this conflict.

Elon dont control Tesla the way he does X and have been consistently overruled by his the tesla board of directors so this will merely be another case of Elon loosing face.

Then he will likely have to do so in Denmark and Norway too.

If he does that, he will have to do the same with norway, and probably Denmark too.

Also, Tesla will have to open-source his hardware, because it will have to respect warranties, and without transport/local Tesla shops, the only alternative will be conventional car shop, which right now cannot really serve Teslas, at least in France.

> because it will have to respect warranties

How? If they leave how can a fine be levied against them? EU?

Yes, sorry i wasn't clear, but consumer protection laws spawns across all EU (i think it's more than that, even Switzerland is in that agreement), so if Tesla do not respect Swedish warranties, Tesla would be at risk in the whole EU.

And Eu is not the US. Some young people might like and follow Musk and his venture a lot, but most people just do not care about him, and when it comes to consumer laws, EU do not joke around. If you have to trust EU to agree on one thing, it's consumer protection. More than market integrity, for sure (hence what is allowed to happen in Ireland: if you do not import consumer grade product or food, the irish sea border basically isn't enforced). So unless Tesla is far more popular accross EU than the Uk, Tesla will have to bend.

EU sucks ass for consumer protection. I bought an overengineered EU designed electric plug adapter in Paris. It wouldn’t work without applying 10kg of force to insert my charger, which it broke doing so.

Store wouldn’t offer a refund only replacement. Only got a refund after I made the clerk test the replacement which also had the same issue.

Same happened with floss that was the thickness of shoelace. Tried to return but Monoprix wouldn’t take it.

In the US, stores take back anything and if they don’t it’s a credit card chargeback away (which I would have done for the electric plug if they didn’t refund me.)

If you didn't involve the authorities to exercise your rights, it sounds more like anecdotal experiences with those particular stores than the entire EU "sucking ass".

> he will have to do the same with norway

It seems to be gaining regional momentum [1].

[1] https://www.transportarbetaren.se/brett-stod-i-tesla-konflik...

> Also, Tesla will have to open-source his hardware, because it will have to respect warranties, and without transport/local Tesla shops, the only alternative will be conventional car shop, which right now cannot really serve Teslas, at least in France.

If force majeure is a valid reason to not receive mail, how is it not a valid reason to ignore warranties? Sauce for the goose and gander and all that.

Sorry, the situation is complex and I should have been more clear. As long as Tesla tries to operate normally in Sweden despite the strike, it probably won't be an issue (might go to court but it will win). If Tesla leave Sweden however, and the strike stops, Tesla might have to open source its hardware for local mechanics.

Consumer protections.

Currently the 5th biggest market for Tesla.

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