For instance, if you count car deaths by miles traveled, why not gun deaths by number of gun owners?
Also, if you segment by demographics and manner of death it changes a lot.
For instance, if you count car deaths by miles traveled, why not gun deaths by number of gun owners?
Also, if you segment by demographics and manner of death it changes a lot.
The central error in their figures is they look at firearm rates instead of handgun rates when handguns are dramatically more likely to be linked with homicides and be considered for gun control. A NYC gun owner is not the same as an Alaskan gun owner especially in areas where owning a firearm is important for safety vs bears.
That site also has many errors, such as Africa doesn’t have higher official rates of firearm deaths though we just don’t have great figures. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-viole...
They also make some rather odd statements like 1 in 200 firearms being used in a homicide = “The risk of a firearm being used in a homicide is very low”. That rate sounds insanely high to me.
I break down exactly what you mention, there's a nice appendix at the top. I cannot help if you didn't read the whole thing, but don't claim there's an error right after you mention not reading it haha
Here's a direct link to how I break out homicides by murder weapons: https://austingwalters.com/firearms-by-the-numbers/#Murder_W...
Here's a direct link to the breakdown by gun ownership: https://austingwalters.com/firearms-by-the-numbers/#Homicide...
Take a look at the graph of murder weapon by state:
https://austingwalters.com/firearms-by-the-numbers/#Murder_W...
If you're murdered in DC you're more likely to be murdered by someones fists than by a gun. When you compare that to Alaska, you're more likely be murdered in DC by fire arm, fists, knives, etc than all causes in Alaska.
In New York State, you're less likely to be murdered than in Alaska (from any cause, including gun shots).
The point I am trying to make is there isn't the correlation you think there is.
Regarding data, I cite my sources: https://austingwalters.com/firearms-by-the-numbers/#Data_Too...
You can argue with the UN about the homicide rates, that's the data I used.
You’re reading that chart incorrectly, half of DC murders are by handguns. Handguns is the dark blue at the bottom, the hands fists feet rate is the grey at the top of the bar chart.
> What are you talking about?
In 2019 ~2 million rifles and ~0.5 million shotgun vs ~3.5 million handguns were sold yet the murder rate by weapon type is vastly in favor of handguns. It’s like we can treat them as separated categories.
So what we care about is not Homicides per Firearm Owner, but Homicides per Handgun Owner etc. DC wanted a handgun ban, not an all weapon ban because over half of DC murders are by handgun.
But nearly every other similar country to the U.S. does not have any meaningful gun deaths, so there’s no need to normalize because there’s no one else to compare to.
Adjusted for population, that would be around 4000 per year in the US. I’d say that’s a meaningful number even if the US reduced gun deaths to be on par with other developed countries.
That’s about the same number of people who die each year due to chronic kidney disease.
You're not allowed to segment this specific data like that, it's racist.