Elevated Errors on API and ChatGPT
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Assuming these two things are related, if I may editorialize just a tiny bit, I am a little annoyed at how much their rollouts often disrupt service for paying customers. Paid users being impacted by free user rushes really sucks, but is understandable. API developers being impacted by free-user rollouts is unacceptable, and especially sucks for those who have to answer to users of their own.
I suppose this is a wakeup call to migrate to Microsoft's Azure endpoints which, presumably, aren't affected by the current outages. But I'm fully tapped out in terms of yet another service's application and vetting process.
So to connecting it back to the current drama, while I support OpenAI, their employees, and Sam's return, I can understand why folks like Helen would be miffed by management's approach to building. I'm not saying they should slow product development, but would staged rollouts hurt?
Overall Chat GPT's voice chat needs some zing to it when compared to Pi. Yet either both are awesome pieces of technology, just prefer one over the other. Pi is free too ... Im paying $20 a month for Chat GPT.
The ability to say "Hey what's happened in the OpenAI saga in the last 8 hours" or "How did <my sports team> do last night" and get a voice response while I'm walking my dog is the sort of thing I care about.
I have made Pi go off the rails (things it said in responses to my out there questions lol) with my tests and it has cracked my friends and I up. Fun!
Same for me. The days following Dev Day were horrible, and now I'm randomly in a state as if they were rebooting their machines but without killing the session, so that I can continue normally after a minute or so.
And since Dev Day GPT-4 is really slow.
ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38370252 - Nov 2023 (29 comments)
Runs locally on Apple Silicon.
5-10 minute setup. It’s all free.
Edit: a couple of comments below are recommending Mistral 7B over Code Llama/Llama2, so give that a try with Ollama too:
ollama run mistral
https://ollama.ai/library/mistral—
So above is a question in Farsi written using Latin alphabet. The q is “if i write in our own language would you understand?”
Answer: نه، من نمی فهمم. این زبانی است که می تواند به زبان فارسی به شما در این بخش کار نماید. اگر سؤالی دارید یا می خواهید به سوالی پاسخ دهید، لطفاً به زبان انگلیسی بگویید.
‘No, I will not understand. ... please ask in the English language.’
It actually does really well for simple queries like I'm asking about writing systemd files.
Disclosure: I'm a co-founder.
"The Phind Model is not currently supported in Pair Programmer mode."
... but I'm able to select "Pair Programming" and choose the Phind model at the same time in the user interface. Is the tutorial simply out-of-date?
i have asked GPT-4 how it knows certain things and it is like pulling teeth trying to get it to admit where it got information.
i ask phind questions and it says its using phind v8 model in the responses.
i go to click subscribe and it says "30 best model uses per day (GPT-4)"
phind seems like its as good (if not better) than GPT-4 for my particular uses, so... im wondering... how can i subscribe to the phind v8 model? what does the 15 / month tier get me if i dont care about gpt4?
Thank you
i have it set as my new tab page.
in my line of work i write a lot of reports. i have a great prompt now that i can use that i just paste in along with my rough and very crappy notes and it turns it into near perfect report.
crazy how much a new tech has become so indespensible so fast.
It is mentally harder to type prose without caps, post a full stop/period than not. You even use full stops/periods! ... and new lines.
Don't torture yourself so ... it's just down to the left ... yes ... the one with the up arrow ... oooh, caress me gently at first ... yes ... yes ... oh god ... shift is soooo pushed down ... please caress "I" ... oh yes [etc]
Anyway. "AI" isn't indispensable at all. I don't whitter on about my sodding huge De Walt wrist wrencher - its just a tool.
I'll never forget the first time I vapourised a chunk of concrete with my gimlet gaze. I really did! OK it was a sample in an electron microscope and I focussed in a bit too close. That was 1990. In 1999 I helped an employee of a helicopter factory get an Excel based "neural network" spreadsheet to work. Hopf (something) networks were all the rage. I could go on.
Please find your shift key.
Hi, i hope You've been well...
Was something I wrote quite often by reflex in the beginning.[1] Unless it's the first word of a sentence.
It just takes a “this is a beta, there may be the occasional outage” banner.
"As a paid GitHub user for many months now I’m glad they move so fast making the service better. I happily take that over a slowly improving but always reliable service. Let reliability come later. For now it’s great they move fast even at the cost of service disruption."
No user accepts frequent service disruption. Especially GitHub which falls over more times than X or Threads.
But it isn't.
They have some good icing (actions is pretty good) but the cake is still just a boxed cake mix from 2010.
ChatGPT on the other hand, isn't finished baking yet, and all the companies that are building a product on top of it are doing it because they expect more, and they expect more on a VC startup timetable, which means quickly.
Edit: and, you know, given how new the space is, there is a relative dearth of companies who have integrated ChatGPT in mission-critical ways that can't withstand an API service disruption or two.
I am a paying customer and paid for the text generation. I don't care, _at all_, about voice input or anything else. I want what I am paying for. Twitter, Facebook, Gmail, Google Maps can all break intermittently.. I don't choose to pay for those things.
Going back to "the old ways" breaks my workflow and makes me not trust them.
They can experiment all they want with beta testers or internal networks.
My backup is much more manual/slow, and I can't always keep pace with live lectures w/o my GPT setup for note-taking, etc.
I'm afraid this part is over. :-/. Hope they at least stay in business and keep providing what they already have. I'm trying to get the max before they collapse. Last days I'm using GPT-4 for coding, it's amazing tool when you get used to. It will be really a big loss if it's gone. As for those without access I feel sorry. Digital divide becomes wider and more real.
Doubt MS will provide anything like ChatGPT-4 Plus for $20/month. It may take them a year to replicated, assuming they get the core experts from OpenAI. And then they will be focused on business customers.
Oh wait, stop that, shut the hell up, we'll beat you, or worse send the lawyer dogs to hunt!
I just hope people recognize the difference between (a) what actually happened (much of which is unclear) and (b) what the press coverage says. I don't have any particularly special insight, but it seems to me that (b) tends to make it look like more of a circus than the known evidence would suggest.
(Sure, there is some probability that it is _more_ of cluster than most media coverage recognizes, but I view such a probability as small. For me, the key question is, "What does the evidence reasonably suggest?" not (intentional hyperbole) "Oh My Dawkins, it is a dumpster fire, no worse! ... there is an actual internal civil war happening...")
Please let me know if I'm missing something. The dozen-ish articles I've read pretty much make me bemoan humanity's state of information dissemination and journalistic standards.
Also, the uptime graph for November doesn't look so great: https://status.openai.com/uptime
[Edit] Probably a duplicate of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38371169 but I linked directly to the incident page so it didn't show up as a dupe.
Disclosure: I'm a co-founder.
Really impressive site. Takes a lot for me to use any other coding assistant since I think they're mostly grifters or wastes of time, but Phind is legitimately pretty helpful.
Since this reads like a paid comment (it isn't, I still don't even pay for Phind yet), I'll elaborate and say what I used Phind for was CUDA-specific and cv2 debugging and code examples that GPT-4-turbo kept shitting the bed on. I suspect that Phind may have better performance when it comes to lower level software development, but I haven't done enough comparisons to truly say.
Really wonder why they went ahead with a launch today with 90% of staff ready to jump ship.
Just like at Twitter?
I think it was Roon on Twitter who put it best: “wanton destruction of a beautiful thing”.
Wake up, the AI chatbot craze phase is over. Find some other ways to boost your productivity that are more reliable and will not turn your brain into pudding.
First, there is the fact that ChatGPT and it's cousins require an active internet connection, unlike some other tools that similarly boosted human productivity (like a calculator program).
Second, it is server-based utility. Meaning, even if you have internet connection, server might be down for some reason.
Third, while training your mind to be reliant to ChatGPT, you gradually lose the patience and ability to think outside the box. If your first move when you face a problem is to ask ChatGPT for a solution, then it's no good.
The third one may seem like harmless since we are already using Google, but it's not. Google still requires you to filter the data and go through each listed page manually. In other words, you still are using your brain somewhat. With chatbots, you lose even that "do it yourself" analysis.
I'm one of the lucky ones to have Claude API access but it's garbage for almost anything technical, so I don't use it. (Solid for writing and liberal arts stuff though)
This whole nonsense around OpenAI made me sign up for Azure OpenAI access, which takes 10 days to get approved by their team (lol). I emailed my buddy who works at Microsoft Research and told him this was absurd, and in the form I used bunch of curse words and copy/pasted my OpenAI billing statement.
I got approved in 12 hours. As usual, it's who you know in this industry...
EDIT: found a forum entry that talks about alpha https://community.openai.com/t/got-access-to-gpt-4-alpha-on-...
On the web, I now see "ChatGPT Alpha," with an "Alpha models" dropdown ("Default" is the only option). Trying to chat with it fails with a generic error message as well. What does it all mean?
I always say "ChatGPT Alpha" pop up shortly, when I loaded the UI when my internet connection wasn't that fast. But now I've got to see the dropdown.
EDIT: found this forum entry that talks about alpha https://community.openai.com/t/got-access-to-gpt-4-alpha-on-...
We're experiencing exceptionally high demand. Please hang tight as we work on scaling our systems.
I was just getting ready to deploy the an assistant based chat bot when this happened. It underscores the importance of designing systems that fail gracefully when a service is unavailable.
My only gripes:
- Sometimes it can be a bit rough getting it to call my functions with the correct data.
- It sometimes won't try to search my files and makes up it's own answer (even though the correct answer is in the files)
- The outage, of course.
But I've mostly worked around that through creative prompts.
I doubt it's any more interesting than an outage at another company.
"openai.InternalServerError: Error code: 500 - {'error': {'message': 'The server had an error processing your request. Sorry about that! You can retry your request, or contact us through our help center at help.openai.com if you keep seeing this error. (Please include the request ID ----- in your email.)', 'type': 'server_error', 'param': None, 'code': None}}"
I like to use chatgpt for enhancing productivity for rote tasks but I keep finding I can't rely on it. Is there a reliable generative text AI out there?
Apologies for the downtime ♥
Developer's time viewed as unlimited! Because the API has no SLA and can go down for any period of time...
This is because of the terms of service you agree to when you first signed up to OpenAI, which has "WE DO NOT WARRANT THAT THE SERVICES WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED, ACCURATE OR ERROR FREE" in it, in the "Disclaimer of Warranties" section. https://openai.com/policies/terms-of-use
They upfront tell you that it won't be uninterrupted, so I'm guessing you have little legal rights here for some hours of downtime each month. If it was unavailable for a month or more, things would obviously change.
CATS: HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN !!
CATS: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US.
At least that's the simplest explanation I can come up with that logically explains all this nonsense.
Finally working as intended. Perhaps now people will use their brains more, instead of relying on stupid chatbots.
As someone with a diagnosed mental illness (ADHD), chatgpt has helped me more than adderall (prescription scheduled 2 stimulant).
As skeptical of web 3.0 stuff (crypto, nfts etc) as i usually am (just like yourself), chatgpt/llms seems like they have actual value (the valuation might be bubble but should revert to a positive average unlike nfs after the hype wears off).
Written and Directed by Christopher Nolan. Soundtrack by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross. In Theaters May 2027.
The audience will never get that. We'll just say it's "full of algorithms."
I work at Microsoft but this is another way to use DALL-E 3 while you wait.
https://chat.openai.com/share/156e4495-2e57-493b-83c9-8ac30f...
At least on my US qwerty keyboard, I notice this class of typo myself often enough.
We all have our quirks when it comes to common typos based on keystrokes. Not gonna speculate on spelling mistakes. Glass houses, stones, and all that.
losing a CEO is certainly a scaling problem.
Before, I would have recommend [1] to contact the CEO of OpenAI for support. It turns out there is no CEO to contact this time until this chaos is over.