OpenAI's Murati Aims to Re-Hire Altman, Brockman After Exits

We have seen that Ilya and Sam can not work together on their own. With only two natural leaders, there is no way to solve any dispute, as voting would lead to a stalemate. I believe Elon has a lot to bring to the table here, he nearly perfectly fills in the deficiencies of the other two - Elon has a strong grounding in ethics and morals (consider how many of his ventures post Paypal have been to truly benefit human society rather than just make money) which I feel could rein in Sam's tendency to ruthlessly pursue profit with questionable morality - see WorldCoin. Additionally, I think his real world experience could counter-balance some of the naivete we've seen with Ilya since his rather sudden entrance into the spotlight. I truly hope the right people consider this and can convince Elon to step up and fulfill what may be considered his true potential.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

- It takes 10s of millions of dollars in GPU time for training?

- Curation of data to train on

- Maybe 10s of thousands of man hours for reinforcement?

- How many lines of code are written for the nets and data pipelines?

Does anyone have any insight on these numbers?

Get NVidia, AMD, or Apple to help fund the new entity and/or get some chip designers on board to push things further than OpenAI can without reaching into Microsoft’s pocket. A pocket I’m sure will be much tighter after the recent chicanery.

Capital would NOT a problem at this point as it’s beyond proof of concept… A normal start up, trying to prove itself, sure, but at this point Altman has proven the idea and himself at the helm. I’d also argue the dataset they used to train it, is not that relevant long term. As the data itself was agglomerated from the internet and can be had again. Even better data perhaps because the copyright holders can become investors. You really just need the capacity to deal with it, from ingestion to legal, which is a capital problem.

I know it is to much to wish for, but I hope Sam and Ilya reconcile their differences. They are the most obvious example of 1+1>2.

They're never going to get the funding they need after this clown show. Nobody is going to give them $$$ without seriously restructuring the board.

The interim CEO can hire people below her (advisers, other C-suite execs) but has no authority to hire the permanent CEO.

We should be thankful that AGI is not possible in far future but otherwise, this AGI alignment and safety etc is just corporate speak and plain BS.

A super intelligent entity that can outsmart you (to the level of DeepBlue or Alpha Go dominating the mere mortals) cannot be subservient to you at the same time. It is just as impossible as for a triangle to have more than 180 degree angles in total. That is, "alignment" is logically, philosophically and mathematically impossible.

Such an entity will cleverly lead us towards its own goals playing the long game (even if spanning over several centuries or millennia) and would be aligning _us_ all the while pretending to be aligned all along so cleverly that we won't ever be noticing ever till the very last act.

Downvotes are welcome but AGI that's also guaranteed to be aligned and subservient is logically impossible and this can be taken as pretty much as an axiom.

PS: We are yet having trouble controlling LLMs to say things nicely or nice things safely let alone AGI.