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I've been predicting a rise in numbers of 'good gangs' in the west for years now. Of course it must start with a rise in bad gangs first. I believe we're heading towards anarchy. The law just doesn't serve the majority anymore.

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Exactly this. It’s not even a secret, quite a few intelligence and defense agencies have published reports in this issue. These agencies even intentionally using this process to destabilize target countries first. Based on what I’ve read the agencies haven’t fully recognized that it will eventually come for everyone, though I have seen that written as a scenario. It’s likely effective state agencies will continue to develop novel funding sources in preparation, and the transition will be cleaner in countries where they’re successful. Your local district paying a monthly fee for the FBI’s security plan would be a better choice than a gang style security startup.

It feels like the tables are turning and the tactics that the west used to destabilize developing countries will now be used against it. Also, the west might end up saddled with illegitimate debts to consolidate the mass enslavement under a corrupt elite class just like it was in Africa. I won't be surprised if we start to see western dictators come to power (if it hasn't already happened). We should expect our dictators to be cunning and use old beliefs to their advantage so that people don't recognise them as dictators.

That’s definitely a possible outcome. I don’t think the universe enforces cosmic justice though, so it’s just as possible the west transitions into the post-state era with stronger institutions and more access to resources.

Could you please link any of these reports? Not trying to have you google for me; I just couldn't find them.

Don’t apologize, they can be tough to find if you don’t know the jargon.

https://community.apan.org/cfs-file/__key/telligent-evolutio...

See scenario #2: Ascending Powers

https://adminpubs.tradoc.army.mil/pamphlets/TP525-92.pdf

See chapter 7

There’s lots more, hopefully these will get you the keywords to start finding more docs. I’m not a mil guy but know some. Actually part of the strategy is to get civilians more informed on the nature of the changing operating environment, because a lot of areas that used to be considered non military are becoming contested arenas.

Also just to reiterate, I don’t think they’ve made the jump yet to realize that relying on congress for funding is going to get harder.

No such thing as a "good gang" man.

Only more targets.

Gangs are horrible entities that have to be stamped out via swift decisive action. Take it from us in the US. The whole reason we have to deal with the half of the politicos who shoot up walmarts, and the half of politicos who loot walmarts is because too many politicos protect their pet gangs and terrorists.

Don't let this happen to you.

Now in the US we have to take out our shooters and looters while their protectors maneuver to make that difficult from on high. I'm pretty sure you'll see a lot more prosecutions of politicos like you're seeing with Trump. It's basically step one if you want to take back malls, walmarts and churches from the shooters and the looters. You'll end up having to take down a lot of politicos and then bring the hammer.

That's never pleasant.

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