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It’s about the same as saying “kids just want to drink Tide pods nowadays.” There’s definitely something wrong with kids who do it but you can’t deny that TikTok is where it gets coordinated.

If your kid is on TikTok all day and gets all their information there, you can’t really separate their belief from the contents they see.

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Between 2012 and 2013, poison control centers reported over 7,000 cases of young children eating laundry pods.

TikTok was released 2016.

So yes, any truth-pursuing individual would deny that. But the media wants to blame TikTok, and people like you are are happy to buy it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumption_of_Tide_Pods

From the link you gave:

> During the popularity of Tide Pods as an Internet meme, in the month of January 2018, the American Association of Poison Control Centers (AAPCC) "recorded 606 exposures in children less than 5 years old," in addition to an increase in teenage exposures. In January 2018, there were more teenagers exposed to pods than in all of 2016 or 2017.

It sure sounds like the internet memes did in fact lead to a big increase in consumption of pods. Also, note that the 2012 and 2013 numbers were for young children. Internet memes would be more likely to be seen to older children and teens.

The vast majority of tide pod consumption has always been young kids. And TikTok isn’t to blame for that. There may have been a small uptick in consumption by older kids “for the lulz” at some point, but that doesn’t make TikTok the culprit for tide pod eating at large.

To tie it back, some demographics might have had their antigenocidal views dictated by tiktok, but to claim the bulk of people would not have reached for them without tiktok’s influence is absurd.

Supporting Palestinians is nothing like the Tide pod challenge. Anyone who cares about human right should be extremely concerned about what Israel is doing right now.

It’s actually quite simple. Israel was out of Gaza for years prior to Oct 7. On Oct 7, Hamas targeted over 1.5 thousand civilians including babies and the aged for slaughter and kidnapping. Resulting in a military operation to suppress Hamas.

So yes if your level of nuance on this is “Israel is hurting human rights, ceasefire now” and you are oblivious to who broke the ceasefire and how, then it’s not that different than making you drink Tide.

Can you identify data that supports your claim? Here’s a good site to start: https://israelpalestinetimeline.org/

Sure look at the chart in your link called people killed per year. That number was very low between 2014 and 2023 until the ceasefire was shatters by hamas this October

So is your argument that Palestinians should have been fine with hundreds of their people being killed by Israelis every year from 2015-2022, because it was less than the thousands of Palestinians killed by Israelis in 2014?

And furthermore that none of those deaths gave justification for the 1200 Israelis killed by Palestinians this year, but those deaths somehow justify the 10,000 Palestinians killed by Israelis this year?

I don’t see this as an eye for an eye bullshit so not sure what “justification” you are talking about. There was calm then there was an incursion that targeted civilians followed by military operation to root out Hamas.

Non Hamas Palestinians are obviously caught in the crossfire

This “calm” “ceasefire” of your imagination was in fact a period where hundreds of Palestinians were being killed by Israelis each year, the real horror is that this was indeed less than before. You seem to think that’s below the threshold of importance?

The situation has no good answers, and Hamas committed murder, but this part is not the truth:

> Israel was out of Gaza for years prior to Oct 7

Israel has conducted military actions in Gaza, but more significantly, they've blockaded Gaza, turning into a ghetto, since the 2000s. They control the Gaza economy and much more. It's not like the Sinai Desert that Israel left decades ago and has no influence in.

Gaza was not a ghetto by any stretch of the imagination. Check their HDI before the war. It exceeds that of many countries.

If Gaza was a ghetto, from where does Hamas get the money to stockpile vast amounts of arms? Couldn't that money have been used to improve living conditions.

Gaza had areas that were described as "wealthy". I wonder how that is possible in a "ghetto"

That differs from every credible source I've read for many years. Do you happen to have any credible sources that support that depiction?

Check these links:

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_of_Palestine_b...

- https://blog.kurby.ai/the-10-best-neighborhoods-in-gaza-pale...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimal

Thanks. Not your job to provide them, but Wikipedia, especially about a white-hot topic, is not reliable in my book. I will keep an eye out.

Still, if you want to persuade people of extraordinary claims, you'll of course need very strong evidence.

There are references for the HDI figures. You really think Wikipedia is cooking HDI figures?

An editor could be, but regardless, Wikipedia has many risks, especially in this scenario.

Yes, condemning hospital bombings and a state that blames civilians for their own deaths ("should'nt have voted for Hamas 17 years ago lol!") while killing more of them than even Russia did in Ukraine, is just like eating tidepods.

> It’s about the same as saying “kids just want to drink Tide pods nowadays.” There’s definitely something wrong with kids who do it

Supporting Palestinians is like drinking Tide pod? WOW, what an incredibly inhumane and racist take.

I don’t think that’s what the parent poster meant at all. They are comparing the people who complain about tide pods to the people who complain about kids seeing pro-Palestinian content on TikTok.

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