I can’t read the article at this time as it says that the site has reached its limit and I have been rate limited and blocked. Some kind of wordpress add on called wordfence?
Taking things away as a method of enforcement doesn't seem to be all that effective and it undermines the kid's self determination. The only thing it does make kids angry and disappointed. A lot of kids have to live by arbitrary rules that don't make any sense, or if they do, haven't been explained to the kid. "Go to your room" and taking things away need to go away from the parenting toolkit, they just lead to kids who get accustomed to going behind the parents' back.
This is really the behavior you’re trying to correct. Your kid needs to learn low trust behaviors are absolutely not acceptable. You won’t have many friends or responsibilities if you don’t learn this.
A lot of parenting is teaching your kids how to remain trustworthy when it’s hard. Anything above that (go to your room, did you do your homework, make sure you’re home at 9) is relatively inconsequential.
Yes, and that’s what all humans experience throughout their whole lives.
If kids aren’t exposed to measured loss and frustration in the thoughtful safety of their home, they won’t develop the skills needed for adulthood, where loss and frustration may not be so measured and constructive.
While lying is one coping skill they might develop, there are many others, and a helping role of the parent is in helping the kid find good alternatives.
I’m not saying that no one is just ripping the phone right out of the kids hands but my experience is that when the phone battery dies, the screen addicted kids begin to meltdown until you fix it.
Sure, but they also do that when you take away dessert. So you're on to something, ice cream causes developmental growth.
The poster you’re replying to is saying:
Kids screaming and throwing tantrums when their screens are taken away implies that screens are bad for the kids’ development.
So, kids screaming and throwing tantrums when their ice cream is taken away implies that ice cream is bad, not good, for the kids’ development according to the poster’s logic.
I suspect most people do agree with the latter, that ice cream is bad for kids’ development, which is why everyone from doctors, parents, etc will recommend greatly moderating ice cream consumption, which is probably what most are recommending for screen time as well.
This premise seems just flatout wrong though. Kids get mad when you take stuff from them, regardless of what they’re holding. I feel like I must be misunderstanding what’s being argued, because “if a kid gets mad that it’s taken away, it’s bad for them” seems at face value absolutely ridiculous and pretty verifiably untrue? Give a kid a bottle and then take it away and they’ll cry…
I have negative experiences with mindless scrolling youtube or reddit as an adult and understand that I have an unhealthy relationship with them due to the addictive nature and I feel my attention span has reduced over the years. If adults can have unhealthy habits with technology, why can’t small children?
Reducing the child’s dependence on a screen to stay entertained or to behave in a public setting is more like cutting your child off after a few cookies and not letting them just eat several dozen cookies for dinner than taking the bottle away.
Phones aren’t necessary like a bottle of milk is for babies.
Ice cream was an arbitrary choice, I could well have said French fries, or something unrelated to dietary choices.