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> Should they also sue all the garbage TV shows for kids and food companies putting sugar everywhere?

There's a song about this; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Threaten_Me_with_a_Goo...

> Did they also sue TikTok? To my knowledge California and New York did not sue TikTok, but is way more dangerous that Instagram. Did they not want to upset Xi during his visit?

Presumably, California (in particular) has an easier time investigating Facebook than TikTok, given it lies within their jurisdiction.

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Other states sued TikTok. TikTok distribution channels are Google and Apple. They also use aws and azure, so Amazon and Microsoft. Hence well within California reach. Probably non negligible part of ad revenue comes from California as well.

None of that permits said states to successfully subpoena/raid ByteDance.

They absolutely can subpoena Bytedance. Congress did. They have offices in the US: https://maps.app.goo.gl/XqJdQyvTCQ1ZUEa96

Don't be intentionally obtuse.

Facebook has offices in China, too, but that doesn't mean Zuckerberg's gonna surrender himself if they invite him over for a chat with the Ministry of Public Security.

California can readily reach Facebook's headquarters and top leadership. California cannot do the same to TikTok. Investigations into the two organizations will face very different challenges in obtaining information.

I am no obtuse, you are ignoring reality. Shou Zi Chew testified before Congress and lied through his teeth that they will invest in restructuring to store US users data in the US and insulate it from CCP government, which is impossible without significant US presence. TikTok's current head of operations, Adam Presser is a US national, as well as his predecessor. If Californian cared about kids mental health, they would absolutely go after TikTok.

Do you also think that California should not go after drug trade, because cartels that run it are outside of the US and Californian jurisdiction?

> Shou Zi Chew testified before Congress and lied through his teeth

So, what will we do about it? How will we subpoena ByteDance's internal emails and commuications with the Chinese Ministry of Public Security to demonstrate that he knowingly lied?

If we get a valid warrant for Zuckerberg's emails, we'll have them in our hands shortly thereafter. If we get a warrant for Liang Rubo's, we won't. This presents obvious challenges to an investigation.

> Do you also think that California should not go after drug trade, because cartels that run it are outside of the US and Californian jurisdiction?

I think trying to do it by suing the cartels isn't a particularly promising approach.

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