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Comment by panarky | Hacker News Reader

I'm so confused.

When I install an LTS version with a Universe package like ffmpeg, does everything continue getting security patches for the full five-year LTS life?

Or do I now need Ubuntu Pro to get the full five years?

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Universe packages are not supported by Ubuntu unless you activate Ubuntu Pro. Thus, if you install ffmpeg on Ubuntu without Pro, it will contain several active vulnerabilities. The full five years only applies packages in the main repo.

That's absolutely terrible and not clear at all.

I've been tempted to go back to Arch and I think this can be a good motivator.

Just to be clear, on Arch ffmpeg is outdated (6.0 vs 6.1.) This means it has three security vulnerabilities.

Debian's ffmpeg is at 6.1, no subscription nonsense required.

It's not the case for this example of ffmpeg (it's actually not patched), but make sure to check the actual changelog. Sometimes the version is kept, but the patches are backported, so a plain version comparison is not enough.

That is also absolutely unchanged compared to "since forever". Canonical supports "main", while "universe" and "multiverse" offer best-effort community support (aka from debian). They now additionally offer a dedicated team for those repos.

Honest question, since the arch wiki seems surprisingly spotty on this: Which arch repos are covered by their security team? Just core? Or also extra? More than that? AUR surely not, right?

Not even "from debian". Sometimes they can't be bothered to copy debian packages that fix security issues if the package is in universe, and just leave it vulnerable for the entire duration of the LTS.

Happened to me.

Universe is supported on a "best effort" basis.

https://ubuntu.com/security/esm

I wanted to find another reason to not use Ubuntu for servers (besides Snap being forced on everyone) and this was it.

At least, in Debian, most of the packages I use on my server are from their main repos. Occasionally there are a few from other sources but by the time a new Debian patch is released, those other packages are also updated.

Just stop using Ubuntu. It's bullshit with shit governance run by crazy people.

For servers, CentOS is reliable as fuck.

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