Explanations for racial discrepancies include:
- Discrimination by law enforcement
- Childhood exposure to violence
- Inability to post bail
- Socioeconomic factors
- Housing segregation
- Sociocultural factors
This is pretty well-known stuff. Please educate yourself.
With your cited explanations, it seems to be easy to generalise and say "a black person that I meet will be more criminal than the next white person that I meet", just because of the reasons you listed, except for law enforcement & the bail thing. Which also seems wrong to me.
I'm not black but I can list several factors that contribute to my own such predispositions, such as having drug addicted parents who were not present in my life, living with extremely abusive, cultist guardians, being homeless at 16, etc. The fact of life is that we must recognize these probabilities if we have any hope of improving our own conditions, or the conditions of others.
"Can't afford it, have to send billions to Israel and Ukraine."
More correctly: "sorry, we have to give billions of dollars in handouts to the wealthy instead."
Let me know when we are allowed to spend money on socioeconomic factors. Literally the only thing holding us back from it are the disingenuous arguments people choose to believe. The same people lecturing about students paying back loans sure did turn a blind eye to PPP forgiveness. Why is that?
Especially when we have so much data that confirms, rather than dispels, this inevitability.
They’re reasons why that disproportionate criminality happens.
Also, that discrepancies in outcomes are caused by differences in behavior between groups isnt “well known” — and is even lied about in the US media.
> They’re reasons why that disproportionate criminality happens
This is an extremely tautological statement, unless you misspoke.
In this particular case, we need to intervene at the cultural, familial, etc levels rather than harassing police for responding to crime as it happens — or blaming them for treating groups disproportionately when those groups act disproportionately.
“De-policing” stems from ignorance (or intentional denial) of that root cause, and thus amounts to blaming the police/courts/etc for doing their job — stopping crime.
I have personally been illegally harassed by police and an entire corrupt court system, illegally charged with a crime I did not commit, and was refused a chance to appeal because my lawyer was worried the judge would be mad at her for not playing along. I was given the maximum possible jail sentence of 6 months on my first criminal offense for a crime I didn't commit. And this happens every day, disproportionately to particular demographics. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Accusing me of not knowing what I’m talking about, based on your personal trauma and your stereotypes about me, isn’t a good faith reply.
Have a great day!
These comments in particular were well over the line at which we ban an account:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170941
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170594
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170565
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170493
I'm not going to ban you for them a week after the fact, but please make sure not to do this again.
(I realize the other user was also being provocative, but that doesn't make it ok to post abusively.)
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- Discrimination by law enforcement OR - Childhood exposure to violence OR - Inability to post bail OR - Socioeconomic factors OR - Housing segregation OR - Sociocultural factors
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AND
(bad personal choices)
Do you seriously not understand that each of these issues lead to bad personal choices? Your comment does not seem to be made in good faith, and this is the sort of mentality that we as a society need to eradicate.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the future. Of course, I won't be around to enjoy it with you, but this guy seems like great company, so enjoy.