Iceland declares state of emergency over volcanic eruption threat
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We are now safe with family in the city. It’s been a long day for sure.
The larger earthquakes (the once above 4 M) started around 16:00. There was near constant—if not plain constant—shaking from then on until the evacuation order around 23:00, as in there was always at least a minor earthquake shaking the ground every 20-30 seconds. When the activity was at the peak (around 18:00) there were larger earthquakes (close to or above 5 M) every 10-20 minutes, those were above the constant shaking from the smaller once. Note that these quakes are really shallow (5-2 km deep) and close (some had their epicenter a couple of blocks away from me, but the furthest away were still less then 3 km away). So the shakes were really sharp and sudden.
https://grapevine.is/news/2023/11/10/updates-state-of-emerge...
Does Iceland have a large Polish population?
I had to call an attendant up to understand how in the word to turn the shower on (there was a long skinny faucet the water poured into the tub that had to be turned clockwise) which she said she was confused by it too and had someone show her. It was in an older Icelandic hotel that used their natural hot water (sulphur stinky but i didnt mind) from the ground for showering or any type of hot water use.
Depending on where in the city you are, that is the hot water you get. The age of each building has nothing to do with it.
Tom Scott has a small video on it: https://piped.kavin.rocks/watch?v=OgMXjAQ5q14
Of course, Iceland has a total population of a mid-sized city, so we're talking ~21k Polish people compared to ~4k Danes.
Iceland's most popular chocolate bar is Polish (Prince Polo). Poland is for cultural reasons heavily dependent on herring, abundantly fished in Icelandic waters. In 1970s, communist Poland didnt have the cash to pay for it though. Iceland accepted chocolate bars in barter.
Their popularity was helped by the fact that Iceland had import controls on chocolate bars (not sure why... To protect local industry?) so there wasn't much competition. It's a nice chocolate bar too, which helps.
Do Icelanders use 12-hr time, or is this just a facet of the English translation?
When talking to someone, you’d say things like (literally translated, obviously) “let’s meet at five”, or “I saw them at around 5 in the afternoon”.
Using 24h time when speaking is common as well, but tends to emphasize formal time or preciseness. Something like “they are open until 18:30”, “the movie starts at 20:45”, or generally if there’s not enough context or a risk of getting it wrong.
So conversely 12h time can also carry a subtext or impreciseness, e.g. if I say “see you at five”, then often it’s around five, but if I say “see you at 17 o’clock”, I more likely mean 17:00 sharp.
Markers like “AM/PM” don’t exist, at all. When using 12h time, it’s either clear from context, or you add something like “in the morning”.
In written form, 12h is rather uncommon, unless speaking colloquially again (e.g. texting with friends; not with businesses or clients, as that carries too much risk of ambiguousness and sounds too informal).
> 12h time can also carry a subtext or impreciseness
There's an additional twist where 12h time is expected to be precise: when being asked for time, many a time one would answer with 12h hour + smallest delta with ±2min error margin, and only sometimes 24h, possibly rounded:
"it's 10 to 3" (3h moins 10): could be 14:48 or 14:52, 14:53 would be "5 to 3" (3h moins 5). This has a slight bias towards the highest, as usually people ask so as not to be late somewhere, so 14:52 could be answered as either "5 to 3" or even "3" depending on urgency. Someone answering "3h52" happens at time but it's fairly rare and feels a bit odd; usually happens out of some habit when reading time from analog clocks.
It's also fair to say 14:45 when it's actually 14:41, but basically nobody would say "quarter to 14".
Also, "noon" is often understood as a quasi-synonym to "lunch", and could actually mean maybe up to 2PM for some, or even 11AM if there's some preliminary social or logistics expectation: "we'll come for noon" (on vient pour midi) has a different context-dependent subtext than "we'll arrive at noon".
> you add something like “in the morning”.
"In the mornin'" ("du mat'") is indeed used as a quasi-marker, a replacement for AM but only when ambiguity needs to be resolved, which it rarely does given known context about activities or people.
Often it's used for emphasis e.g earliness: "woke up at 4" has enough context to gather that it's in the morning but has a neutral, factual tone to it, whereas "woke up at 4 in the mornin'" evokes "what? shitty night I bet, you must feel terrible"; or lateness "we were out yesterday, went to bed at 4 in the mornin'!" similarly prompts "oh looks like you had some fun!".
Sometimes it is used in jest on 24h time. An answer to the above could be "15 in the morning? are you out of your mind?", implying that person would stay up late the night before or in self-derision about one's oversleeping habits.
It's vanishingly rare to literally say "in the afternoon", generally this is inferred or explicited from conversational context, as opposed to a marker: "let's see each other tomorrow afternoon, let's say around 3?"
Also fair to simply omit the hour entirely when it is largely known and merely utter "45"
> An answer to the above
s/above/below (I failed to consistently update after a paragraph move for clarity)
We tend to mix thing, like you’ll tell your spouse that you’ll be going to the whatever at “clock/time twenty” but if they ask what time it is at night you’ll say “it’s eleven”. But news media will use 24-hour notation, so it’s very likely a translation.
Honestly I’m sort of curious which countries outside the ones the British “founded” use the 12-hour notation officially.
https://en.vedur.is/about-imo/news/a-seismic-swarm-started-n...
The precise uplift data is fascinating!
https://twitter.com/Vedurstofan/status/1723315864047321272 [posted on X 7:27 am US ET]
https://en.vedur.is/about-imo/news/a-seismic-swarm-started-n...
Just another Friday in Iceland!
> Also nearby is the Svartsengi geothermal plant, the main supplier of electricity and water to 30,000 residents on the Reykjanes peninsula. It has contingency plans in place to protect the plant and its workers in the event of an eruption.
Anyone have any idea what those contingency plans would be other than emergency shutdown and hope something is left to save afterwards? Or do they actually go in and put dampers and stuff on turbines to make sure they don't bounce around unnecessarily?
https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/IS?wind=false&solar=fal...
Not the case in Iceland. Only 15% of the demand is non industrial, and people still use electricity regardless of what they're working on. Grindavik itself isn't large enough to be more than a rounding error.
>even without a dip in demand from that there’s usually some oversupply with electricity generators to avoid ramp up time problems during peak demand, so possibly they decided to shut down unused capacity to reduce the risk of it being damaged
No, geothermal plants generally aren't ramped, and they produce at maximum output unless there is maintenance. They may have reduced overall output to enable individual turbines to be turned off for brief periods while installing new remote control devices. That is speculation however as I'm not at work so I can't say for sure.
As much as it would suck to lose a power plant (we are already on the edge of energy shortages), it is far worse to lose hot water supply to Keflavik. They'd have to quickly build up electric heating capacity, which will make energy shortages.
There also GNSS and laser interferometers that watch for displacement of land.
Early warning and prep is key. And this isn't an 'emergency', yet. It's an 'Alert', to prepare people for the worst.
And even if they interrupt service it's not like they aren't expecting service interruptions anyway (given the whole imminent volcano eruption)
In addition to the remote-control setup that others have been talking about, they're also in the process of building defensive earthworks that will direct lava flows away from critical infrastructure.
But you kind of learn what you have to do, and what you don't want to do. Over the last weekend, we had similar winds and over the evening we heard some loud crashing, popping and overall noise. You kinda don't want to go out near trees with those winds as branches can fall - but at the same time, the wind might have blown over trees onto the roads and if some late night driver hammers into those... it'll be inconvenient for everyone, at least. We ended up meeting like 3 neighbours on the road checking out if the road is clear and had a good laugh with them.
Later on we figured out someone had launched some fireworks... dang guys.
A ton of my neighbors had trees that had fallen on their cars or roofs. Whole trees in the road. Spent the next day helping my older neighbors pick up the damage because the city won't send anyone out to do it. As bad as it was, I can think of a dozen or more worse storms I've been in, with power outages lasting for weeks or months or flash floods submerging everyone's homes. Many of my friends were a part of the Cajun Army everyone heard about in the 2016 flood. Roofing companies make a lot of money where I'm from.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Louisiana_floods
> Because numerous homeowners who were affected were without flood insurance, the federal government provided disaster aid through the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).[3] The flood was called the worst US natural disaster since Hurricane Sandy in 2012.
But this is the most sinister part. Most flood zones are correlated with impoverished people due to reasons you can guess, and insurance companies refuse to insure these homes against the only real threat in the area, thanks to lax state regulations; instead, the federal government is forced to make up the slack. The quality of recovery between the poor and well-off in these extreme weather events is vastly different.
35 million years ago, Iceland didn't exist as a landmass. The oldest land is around 30-35 million years old, the newest land is less than a million years old, close to the center and close to Reykjanes for example (area in this story.)
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Simplified-geological-ma...
Is there a risk of impacting transatlantic flights over the next month?
I got stuck in the US when the big ash cloud went up from the unpronounceable volcano (2010? 2008?), I have to get there again before Christmas and I'd dearly like not to repeat the experience.
While it may not impact transatlantic flights, if the eruption is large enough it could impact flights from & to Keflavik airport, but again there's little chance of that due to the predicted eruption site being on the east of a ridgeline, which should mean that there will be less lava flowing west.
It's valid for european postage, good for any mail from Iceland to Europe, just to send a nice reminder to the continent what Iceland can do. I received one of these and I mean, it's just perfect.
There is an ongoing Alert Phase on the Reykjanes peninsula, due to seismic activity.
The larger earthquakes (the once above 4 M) started around 16:00. There was near constant—if not plain constant—shaking from then on until the evacuation order around 23:00, as in there was always at least a minor earthquake shaking the ground every 20-30 seconds. When the activity was at the peak (around 18:00) there were larger earthquakes (close to or above 5 M) every 10-20 minutes, those were above the constant shaking from the smaller once. Note that these quakes are really shallow (5-2 km deep) and close (some had their epicenter a couple of blocks away from me, but the furthest away were still less then 3 km away). So the shakes were really sharp and sudden.
As the quakes went on, I noticed I started getting more jumpy whenever there was a bigger earthquake, some people reported feeling seasick from the constant quakes, but I personally didn’t. Today I have a headache and am just spending the day in bed at my safe harbor, I suspect the stress got the better of me.
https://www.ruv.is/frettir/innlent/2023-11-13-skemmdir-i-gri...
* shut off roads or regions
* use the military for aid
* access emergency funds
* quickly do things that otherwise require lots of bureaucracy
* signal to others that shit is dire
https://www.almannavarnir.is/english/general-information/eme...
Although sitting here and feeling my house rock back and forth, with the earthquake map looking like seen in the link below, I don't think it's too long until state of emergency.
https://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes
Edit: And there we go. A stage of emergency was just declared for the town of Grindavík and it's being evacuated.
3 days ago, we got completely remote control of the Grindavik geothermal facility. There's also a backup system installed by Orkan (petrol company).
Roads are also shut down to Grindavik to prevent tourists from being dumb.
The Blue Lagoon did terrible, and only yesterday shut down, 3 days after the police chief said it was grossly irresponsible. Money grabbers love grabbing.
Air traffic will only really shut down if there's a great deal of gasses or smoke. Magma is magma, and isn't a big deal as long as people or animals aren't in the way.