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I don't think naivety is a good description.

It's something else. Mental habits that are entirely rhetorically based. Basically, George Orwell's nightmare

I mean that it's naive to think you can lay out an argument that governments around the world should wage war with bows and arrows instead of guns. It doesn't even stand up to the devastating counterargument: "but guns are better". There's no riposte to that except "well yes, but it's like how we should all use bikes instead of cars, which everyone I've talked to at my solar powered website agrees is self-evidently true".

It's a "naive" statement maybe.

But idk. Were Charles Manson or the unibomber "naive" to think they could achieve their goals, their way?

It's not a naive mindset, whether or not the conclusion is. I don't think it's lack of experience or depth that leads here.

Yeah, I was being glib and dismissive if we get right down to it. I did roll my eyes at the article, imagining how a lot of people I know would react to it. But, I appreciate someone making a spirited, essentially rational attempt at laying out a case.

Is it spirited? What's it in the spirit of?

It's the duck-witch skit from Monty python.

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