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They literally invented transformers, one of the key innovations that enabled this LLM boom.

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Google didn't invent shit, the following people did. None are still with Google.

* Ashish Vaswani - Founder, Stealth Startup

* Noam Shazeer - Founder, Character.AI

* Niki Parmar - Founder, Stealth Startup

* Jakob Uszkoreit - Founder, Inceptive

* Llion Jones - Founder, Sakana AI

* Aidan Gomez - Founder, cohere

* Lukasz Kaiser - OpenAI

* Illia Polosukhin - Founder, NEAR

Then by your logic no company ever invents anything.

You’re inferring things I didn’t say. Google’s inaction on the invention and letting that entire team leave the company is proof they’re inept.

if the same invention happened at a university, no one would say MIT/Stanford invented transformer. We credit the people involved. Somehow, if it happens at a company, company gets most of the credit. Even when the papers and authors are publicly available. this is different from say iPhone which probably would not be developed at a university.

"researched" it, yes. But they are completely unable to operationalize it.

I used Google Bard today.

Is that somehow not operationalized?

Ahh so you were our user today. How was the experience?

Bard is terrible at coding. It makes a lot of mistakes but is too insistent it got it right. My feeling is Bard confabulates more often than the recent version of ChatGPT.

The good thing is one can verify the output of Bard easily with the Google button and when asking for links it will give you reference (real or not). Other plus is the ability to access internet, so you can give Bard directly your own document for processing.

ChatGPT also seems to understand the intention of the user better while the filtering (clam down) of bard is very strict.

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