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It was a sexist website offering bad advice for impressionable, young women.

Nothing of value was lost.

> It was a sexist website offering bad advice for impressionable, young women.

Maybe. However I feel obliged to point out that there are countless media outlets that fit this description for men, but when they get shut down a common reaction is that free speech is under attack and cancel culture has gone too far.

Out of curiosity, what media outlets are you referring to?

Not a corporation, but I've certainly seen that reaction to any number of subreddits getting shut down.

Right, but that's not analogous to a media company going out of business. Nobody deplatformed Jezebel. Credit card companies, web hosting services, nobody refused to do business with Jezebel. There just weren't enough consumers of their content to make it profitable.

That's not the same situation as an otherwise successful outlet being deplatformed or cut off from commercial services.

A subreddit being shutdown is not even barely related to a company going out of business. The reactions should be very different.

When they are shut down by their host because they disagree with the content or are being pressured by twitter, I can imagine that. When they go out of business? I haven't ever seen people complain about free speech under attack at that point. Could you provide an example from these countless outlets?

[edit]When Playboy shut down in 2020, for example, I didn't see people upset about it being an attack on free speech; it was a dated business model that didn't work anymore.

I suspect a large number of people are learning that Playboy shut down in 2020 from reading your post.

I'm one of them. I had no idea.

They didn't shut down, they moved to online-only. A lot of publications have done that.

Source: https://www.playboy.com/ is there, alive and well.

I don't think that's actually a magazine. It looks like there are no articles at all, it's just a run of the mill porn website.

There are articles, quite a lot actually, they just aren't prominently featured.

https://www.playboy.com/read/cunnilingus-101-what-you-need-t... https://www.playboy.com/read/legend-of-leveretia

However, I can't find any articles written in 2023. So, perhaps the magazine part is gone after all.

Which site? Can you name any? Subreddits are not dedicated websites.

The difference is that those media outlets for men are usually independent small businesses run by a handful of people and not giant corporate media entities backed by large corporate advertisers.

There isn't a single male-oriented media outlet on television and largely because men aren't giving television their attention.

Edit: I'm talking about news/quasi-news media like the sites mentioned, so don't come back to me with "duh, sports"

> I feel obliged to point out that there are countless media outlets that fit this description for men, but when they get shut down a common reaction is that free speech is under attack and cancel culture has gone too far.

Can you name one example? I'm talking about a male-oriented, so-called "journalism" site cut because it's unprofitable, leading to outrage and pearl-clutching about free speech and cancel culture.

On Jezebel's comment section you would have been banned for asking this impertinent question. Obviously they're unprepared to respond with anything resembling evidence for their claims and will repeat it elsewhere rather than engage.

The OP's comment is really for themselves to feel an emotional charge of victimhood, it's a monologue not a dialogue.

So where can women go for good advice?

Good advice doesn't really exist in the same way bad advice does, because the same things can ruin anyone's lives but everyone needs something different to fix theirs.

I think it's the other way around.

Anna Karenina principle: all happy families are alike, but each unhappy family is unhappy in it's own way. Or: there are many ways to be miserable, but only a few ways to be happy. Or: entropy increases.

A couple of pointers would lead the vast majority to better lives, but there are so few of these that you can't build a publication around it.

If every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way, they each need a different change to become happy.

What kind of advice? Relationship advice probably might not be the best to take clickbait seriously.

Their family and good friends. The attempts to replace those with technology/media for various uses have failed, beyond maybe some less important ones e.g. "what's a good refrigerator to buy?"

> It was a sexist website offering bad advice for impressionable, young women.

Didn't Bustle replace Jezebel?

Agreed, but unfortunately this just clears the stage for influencers both if this variety and their young man grifting doppelgängers of the Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson schools.

It’s a golden age for toxic life advice. TV and movies always served up a diet of dysfunctional advice but it was at least labeled as fiction. Now we get a steady stream of cursed “how to be a victim” / “how to be an abuser” advice labeled as fact.

on par with Gawker

Glad we have you to tell us the value of other people's writing.

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