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> notoriously combative CEO

Understatement of the year. Dolan successfully destroyed 2 major sports franchises (Knicks and Rangers) he spent millions on acquiring and managing.

He is also using facial recognition to ban all employees of law firms suing MSG (his company) from going to any of their properties, and NY State is considering pulling his liquor license as a result.

The only reason he's solvent is because the Madison Square Garden is basically el dorado (financially speaking) and he inherited a bunch of money from his father (the founder of HBO and Cablevision)

Imagine if GOB Bluth became CEO. That's Dolan.

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Maybe the funniest and most pathetic thing about Dolan is that his true love would appear to be his band (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_%26_The_Straight_Shot). It's basically the best session musicians inherited money can buy backing a frontman whose singing has been described as "karaoke-grade" and "like he's trying not to cough".

And his employees are expected to attend his shows. And he checks on this.

This if fucking hilarious. What a clown. I knew of him before, but I didn't know the full depth of the delusion and megalomania. He rivals Zuck in later which is an impressive achievement.

I kind of think it's to our benefit to have a handful of guys like this around--they remind the rest of us that money isn't everything.

(To be clear, speaking from experience, poverty isn't so fun either.)

Sounds like he might be an excellent presidential contender

Eh - the Rangers are doing ok this year. There's a question about if they were going in the right direction a few years ago, but they rebounded.

The Knicks are a smoking crater, from what I understand, tho.

> the Rangers are doing ok this year

True, but isn't he much more hands-off now compared to a couple years ago?

I think you'd have to be an NHL insider to know that.

Dolan's Wikipedia page blames him for the post-94 dip, which may be fair, but if that's the case, then he's seen them through two rebuilds, one of which culminated with a Stanley Cup Finals appearance (2014, if I recall). I'll never forgive him for not getting Hank a Cup, but sometimes these things can't be helped. Hockey is fickle.

I had to look up "which rangers sports team" because the one from Texas just won the world series in baseball and Rangers FC doesn't seem to be doing too bad.

Do sports teams really have a limit on available names?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatchewan_Roughriders

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Rough_Riders

These teams played <i>in the same league</i>.

Yeah, but it must have been a giant league with lots of teams. ...Right? (9 teams...) Now, their name is simple "the red-blacks" and is for the colors of their uniforms.

Toronto's soccer team in Major League Soccer is called "Toronto FC" or "Toronto Football Club". Calgary: "Cavalry FC" which seems extra confusing when spoken.

Sports naming is so weird.

Speaking of weird names, I've always been fascinated about how the football (soccer) team the Young Boys decided to go with that. I'm not about to just Google that though. I don't need my browser history polluted with the types of wrong results that would come up.

Named in contrast to Basel Old Boys, apparently. (“Old Boys” as in former pupils of a school.)

It's the same name as Juventus and Al Shabab

It's all fun and games till you're at a Sheffield pub talking about 'United'

I think being in Sheffield is punishment enough /s

MLS naming is the worst!

Originally, it was perfectly normal North American naming convention, $PLACE $NOUN. Then sometime in the aughts, they started bringing in boring European names, and worse yet, just aping them for no reason. Only the pretentious call soccer “football” in North America, and no one calls themselves a “sports club”. Even the Baseball Club of Seattle, doesn’t call themselves “Seattle BC”. They’re the Mariners. Half of the league’s names are an insult to North American sports culture.

A special place in sports hell is set for the dude that named Real Salt Lake. He explicitly aped Real Madrid because he’s such a fan. Dude. We literally fought a war to overthrow a monarchy.

> Only the pretentious call soccer “football” in North America,

Lots of people whose cultural origin isn't in the US or Canada do, and that overlaps a lot with the people who care about soccer at all.

> they started bringing in boring European names

Those European style names are because international clubs began investing in MLS.

The Abu Dhabi royal family's fund that owns Man City has 80% ownership of NYCFC, who started the "FC" naming trend in MLS, and plenty of other MLS clubs are owned by people who also own European clubs.

> Half of the league’s names are an insult to North American sports culture

What the hell is "North American sports culture".

Naming conventions in Soccer/Football have always been European based because it is the primary region for prestige Soccer.

It's like complaining about Israeli or Chinese Basketball leagues using NBA style names and jerseys or Mexican College Football (yes that is a very popular thing there, and the Big12 is considering adding them to the conference) using Big10/Big12/Pac12 style branding and stadiums despite soccer being more popular in those places

The aesthetic matters from a branding perspective.

FC naming was added as a brand management technique.

When you watch soccer, you expect Tier 1 soccer aesthetics and branding - especially as an owner trying to recoup your investment.

It was Abu Dhabi that started the FC/SC naming conventions in MLS after they were the first international investor in MLS with NYCFC.

After that, the door was opened for plenty of investors who didn't see an RoI or have to ability to invest in Tier 1 European Soccer.

Toronto FC aka TFC were playing their ninth* season when NYCFC joined the league

x FC is just a common way to name football clubs around the world, adopted by MLS clubs

Edit: Announced during their seventh season; joined in their ninth

Edit; Chicago, Dallas, Houston Vancouver and Toronto had FC In their name before NYC FC existed

Doh your right. I totally forgot about Toronto FC and Vancouver FC. The early 2010s are a haze for me. I still stand by the brand management argument though.

Imagine if GOB Bluth became CEO. That's Dolan.

Come on...

What? So you’re just going to blame the guy in the $5000 suit? COME ON!

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