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That’s terrifying and I think Wordpress can be stored in Git and deployed by CI/CD today.

https://spinupwp.com/advanced-wordpress-deployments-with-bud...

If all you’re ever doing is WinSCP and editing on a production server at what point does lack of experience with Git and how software is built elsewhere become a liability in career terms because interviewing examples are hard?

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Many PHP hosters allow git syncing for a few years. One issue are co-workers/clients who change things directly via FTP. Having a local copy with docker (maybe vscode containers) works very well for testing. I assume OP has a lot of clients who do not have the budget for test environments which happens a lot. The SFTP workflow does work quite well, there are plugins for sublime text / vscode.

At my last company the senior dev had all 5 wordpress employees do this. FTP, edit the files directly. He simply did not know how to use git, and did not care to learn.

To be fair, it did work. Nothing ever blew up. We had hourly backups for all the major clients. Onboarding or switching between clients had zero startup costs, its literally just FTP and php files.

Happy I left though.

For modern WordPress, the roots.io ecosystem is really great (https://roots.io/), notably Bedrock for things like this:

https://roots.io/bedrock/

While not ideal, if websites aren't transactional or on the critical path of business, short, occasional downtime can be tolerable. Facebook used to push fresh PHP code straight to production multiple times per day often with obvious side effects. Who cares? It's just Facebook.

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