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This might be a little too far, but I sometimes say to my friends that a minor crash should actually be part of driver training. Modern cars feel extremely safe, and nearly drive themselves, so many people do not take driving as seriously as they should, and not as seriously as they do after they have their first collision.

Perhaps being required to actually use 100% braking power to pass is enough :)

In this respect, motorcycle training courses are MUCH better, and have numerous braking and swerving drills, but they have to be, because motorcycles require a higher-level of attention and are significantly more dangerous to operate than a car.

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> because motorcycles require a higher-level of attention and are significantly more dangerous to operate than a car.

For the driver. Cars are more dangerous than motorcycles for everybody but the people inside/on it, which means that swerving and braking exercises are actually much more necessary for car drivers than for motorcycle riders

Weight is the winner at equal velocity.

This said, I prefer my mode of transportation to have a hard crunchy outside to protect my soft gooey insides.

Then why does almost every motorcyclist I see ride dangerously? They all follow too close. Many will spill over into the oncoming traffic lane to overtake something in their own lane, just expecting you to move to the shoulder so they can go the wrong way in your lane.

Later I see them stopped for fuel or food and it's all grey haired dudes.

Maybe those motorcycle training courses have become so strict that young people don't bother, and most of the bikers you see are those "grey haired dudes" who learnt back when standards were lower.

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