I cannot stress enough how much i deeply and utterly despise sunset at 16:14.
Getting up before dawn? Great, i’m getting the drop on the day!
Eating lunch in the fading light of the late afternoon, and dinner in full dark? The absolute pits.
Getting up before dawn? Great, i’m getting the drop on the day!
Eating lunch in the fading light of the late afternoon, and dinner in full dark? The absolute pits.
The funny thing is that some people strongly advocate changing timezone to advance the clock 1 hour, saying that we are in the "wrong" one, it's not "natural", etc. But then you talk with them and many of them are confused about how it would work and think that the timezone change would give more evening sun in the winter. Explaining that it would do the opposite brings looks of terror.
Of course there is a minority of people who do support that change knowing the practical consequences, but it seems to be a rather small minority.
I'd be all for us being permanent DST but as that's not allowed it'd be great if we could shift a timezone and stay standard time
For everyone else, no. We cant sleep in for an hour.
The time when my kids go to school is determined by the current official time, not when I choose to wake up. It's regulated by federal and state laws, and local bylaws.
The visitation times at the hospital, court appearances, etc. are all set to the current official time, not when I choose to wake up. It's regulated by federal and state laws, and local bylaws.
The airport curfew is determined by the official time, not when I choose to wake up. It's regulated by federal and state laws, and local bylaws.
Your point would make sense if everyone had to do only one thing every day, and people existed in small (< Dunbar's number) isolated communities.
But we don't: people do multiple things, interact with different communities; all these schedules are interdependent, and many of them set by legislation. Changing all of them is a problem that requires coordination, which is exactly the kind of thing we maintain governments for.
The current coordination point is that it's convenient if all these things move one hour forward in the summer, and the mechanism to achieve this is that we change clocks twice a year, instead of the vastly more difficult alternative of maintaining two separate sets of schedules for everything.
But it looks like consensus is moving on (again!), and people no longer think that pushing everything forward by one hour in the summer is a good idea (or rather, they think moving it back for the winter is a bad idea). So they'll use the coordination mechanism to make it so.
do we adjust school start times today? yes: if you've ever experienced two schools consolidating, or just demographic shifts in the areas being served by a school, it's not uncommon for start times to change. so regardless of how we coordinate at the whole-society level, we'll still do more granular coordination at the workplace, school, and community levels. IMO that outermost layer of coordination really just needs to provide stability, with the more local layers coordinating the finer details. and for many of us, DST is perceived as disrupting that stability: it feels like more of a hindrance to coordination than an aid for it.
Solution:
They wake up an hour earlier, go for a jog, have a cigarette outside, whatever, and then join the rest of society at our regularly scheduled time.
Honestly it was less intensive when I still had a regular job, the fixed daily structures that didn't fit my inner clock anyway kinda masked that issue.
Remote work has largely fixed that aspect for me at least.
But … assuming lunch is at roughly noon or so, that's just barely past solar noon, not "the fading light of the late afternoon"…
Lunch in Spain 2pm-3pm
Just keep it as bright as you can until it’s time for bed, then switch everything off. It’s a lot easier to turn off artificial light than it is to try to sleep when the sun is still shining.
Do you just sit around while your friends and family eat? Do you just not enjoy eating food?
I’d be sad and bored if I skipped dinner as my default for an entire season.
Your comment is a bit low effort. Did you assume I was talking about you specifically? That’s a bit absurd.
Whether that's correct or not I don't want to debate. There are for sure many different opinions. I know only 1 obese person who might have been living somewhat according to that rule, the vast majority isn't overweight.
Don’t like it? Move further south.
We already pick arbitrary times for sunset twice a year. Nobody has to move anywhere to pick one arbitrary time for sunset and leave it that way. There’s nothing inherently “correct” about setting the time based on where the sun is positioned in the sky at “noon”, sometimes, from certain arbitrary points of observation.