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I noticed last night our iPad can request Personal Hotspot access even when my iPhone Hotspot is off. There is 0 delay between pressing the hotspot button and my phone beeping. And you can do it as often as you like.

It certainly doesn't go through the internet. I suspect it is direct ipad to iphone communication. I'm going to turn Bluetooth off tonight and see if it goes away.

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FYI There are times when Bluetooth Off just means Bluetooth Pause, on iOS/iPadOS.

Yeah, if you use the Bluetooth toggle in control center, it doesn’t disable Bluetooth at all, it just temporarily disconnects all Bluetooth devices. If you go to your Bluetooth settings, it will still be enabled.

Yep, and this offensive disregard for the user's choices only impedes people from mitigating this attack.

Tell Apple to PERMANENTLY respect the user's choices when turning BT and Wi-Fi on or off, no matter where they do it: https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone/

Or use an automation. Drop you a nice icon on the home screen and Bob's yer uncle.

Or just don't do it because OP's reasons for leaving BT and WiFi off all the time are nonsense that haven't made sense in about a decade.

I agree. See my other comment on this post.

Notably you neglected to say how.

And another good reason: Despite some improvement Apple seems to have made on this issue over time, the phone will still connect to "free" Wi-Fi that has no Internet connectivity as you roam around.

Thanks, but I'm not going to litter my home screen with workarounds for Apple's disrespect for user choices. I turn them off in Settings and that's that.

> ... Apple's disrespect for user choices.

Apple is respecting the choice of the majority of it's users who simply want to disconnect all devices temporarily in order to solve an immediate problem. Nearly all the time, Apple's users want BT (and WiFi) ON.

Like I said, there's a whole page of settings for Control Center. Apple could have simply made this behavior selectable. But nope, they changed the behavior of the buttons without telling anyone. Only after people complained did they add the explanatory text.

It still connects to watch, Pencil, and handoff, and will reactivate bluetooth the next morning.

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102412

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