Comment by egeozcan | Hacker News Reader

Comment by egeozcan | Hacker News Reader

You and your partner might find yourselves giving birth in a bomb shelter. We tread on thin ice daily, an ice sheet formed atop the worst of human experiences—brutality, war, and disaster.

Daily, we witness how this fragile ice could crack at any moment. The war in Ukraine saw potentially 75,000 lives lost in Mariupol alone. The Palestine-Israel conflict escalates with over 1,500 civilian fatalities. Turkey's earthquake claimed 50,000 lives, upending millions more.

Here I am in central Germany, grumbling about waiting an hour for a doctor when my son had a fever. I won't stop complaining—that's not the point.

The point is to recognize the fragility of our peace and figure out how to reinforce it. What are we doing to prevent these tragedies? And if they do happen, how do we lessen their blow?

Let's approach it like Silicon Valley would with a datacenter outage: You don't just thank your stars it didn't blow up. You dissect the issue and outline measures to prevent a recurrence.

Over the past month Israel killed more than 9000 Palestinian Civilians

3500 of them Palestinian children

If you want to perform a root cause analysis then make sure you have the correct data.

And by "correct" data, you mean data that comes from Hamas and is politically tinged, rather than data that comes from the numerous non-aligned/independent sources?

Don't think what you're doing isn't transparent to anyone who has spent even a modicum of time becoming informed on the topic.

The photos and videos of 3500 dead Palestinian children speak for themselves.

Anyone who is interested in the truth and “has spent even a modicum of time” would condemn the killing of innocent children and demand an end to their continued killing and suffering.

There have been so, SO many Syrian conflict videos passed off as Gaza recently. There are also legitimate videos of terrible events occurring in Gaza.

All I ask is that people apply some scrutiny to the sources and don't trust that just because something went viral on Twitter with a caption saying it's from Gaza, that it is. There are incredible numbers of bad-faith grifters who thanks to Elon now have a monetary incentive to spread bullshit for "engagement" and a lot of if has gone viral with millions of views despite being verifiably false with a simple reverse image search.

>anyone who has spent even a modicum of time becoming informed on the topic

WHO, UN and other entities furthest away from being "politically tinged" consider the numbers "credible", "accurate", "reliable". I guarantee you what you are doing is very clear also, parroting literal propaganda points. And it's awful to see discussions on specific numbers numbers when any single loss of life is tragic.

>New York-based Human Rights Watch also says the casualty figures have generally been reliable, and that it has not found big discrepancies in its verification of past strikes on Gaza.

>"Those numbers are in line with what one might expect, given what we're seeing on the ground through testimony, through satellite imagery and otherwise," he told Reuters.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/despite-bidens-dou...

https://www.emro.who.int/images/stories/palestine/WHO_oPt_Si...

If that's the case, it's important that you are pointing that out. My intention wasn't to perform an analysis; I lack both the education and the data to do so. I just wanted to get my point across.

Today we have access to far more information in the form of books, documentaries and different sources than anytime in the past.

It is time to educate yourself if you find that lacking.

I would not want to be the one siding with a Genocide in 2023 for lack of education.

Are you suggesting that I'm "siding with genocide" because my information on civilian causalities is outdated?

Stop starting a witch-hunt every time someone is wrong on the internet.

Calling Israel defending itself from hostile invasion a genocide is the sort of thing you’d think this wealth of information would prevent, unfortunately it seems the Internet did not shepherd in an informational utopia after all.

I’m not calling it that, experts on the subject are:

https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide

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