Why is the plural form of "house" not "hice"? (2016)
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And Haus is still neuter in German, while Maus and Laus are feminine.
On a side note, I just learned that 'neutral' comes from the Latin word 'neuter' (meaning 'neither').
or is it, Hue-ston?
House-ton, we have a problem. --Jim Lovell
House-ton, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed. --Neil Armstrong
I feel like I'm in some alternate universe ala PK Dick where things are the same with slight twists. This one is where odd pronunciations are the norm. Like going to the Rodeo to see the cattle.
I'm in the Southeastern Michigan area if that explains anything.
edit: Using barrkel's comparison in a sibling thread - "house" and "to house" are both howce and "hows" is "howz".
edit2: Further thinking leads me to conclude I have heard others use "howz" for "to house" around me and if I were speaking quickly that may be how I would say it. Just reading those sentences to myself internally at my own speed uses the howce.
How do you pronounce "department of housing and urban development"?
Department of mousing and urban development
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Thinking about this more... I just realized something. I struggled with a lisp and speech therapy in grade school. I distinctly remember a lesson where I was being instructed on how certain words ending in "s" actually sound like "z" like "apples" and I was pronouncing it without the z.
I am thinking this may just be related to that.
There are a few weird "same-spelling" words. You can refuse to throw refuse in the trash can. You can estimate how many estimates you might get. But I suspect that you're not a suspect in this case. But, if you get close, I'll close this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I9652HzGWE
Or maybe it was the Electric Company's...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMuI6WI6MJU
Nothing beats Tom Lehrer's song about Silent E:
The department of <howzing> and urban development needs to make new <howsses> to <howz> new immigrants.
Bastard language this is.
It is right. The rule you are stating is an overgeneralization; it is correct for specifically distinguishing the verb forms “house” and “houses” from the singular and plural noun forms “house” and “houses”, but not really otherwise (maybe by derivation, in that “housing” is “that which houses”, but...)
The voiced 's' is a 'z' sound. And English sadly doesn't use a different letter here.
*In simple terms. I think these form an identical mouth shape, but there's probably a dialect where it doesn't. And some bizarre cases where it doesn't. Because English. And judging from another comment from someone from Michigan, they say both the same?? Also 'housing' for me uses a voiced s, but I think I've heard 'housing' both ways.
How much else is there I never noticed???
Meanwhile, the plural of fish is both fish (multiple of the same species) and fishes (more than one species).
> the fourth king of the Joseon dynasty, Sejong the Great, personally created and promulgated a new alphabet.
> The Korean alphabet was designed so that people with little education could learn to read and write. A popular saying about the alphabet is, "A wise man can acquaint himself with them before the morning is over; even a stupid man can learn them in the space of ten days."
English has a bunch of weird and confusing issues. But "English as a second language" is at least a variant that is stripped down, with far less weird idioms, and lets you get points across to people. "Correct" pronunciation (whatever that's worth) is also optional. Hard to beat!
I thought Esperanto did have some success though! And FWIW I think many language learning communities can thrive on a bunch of people using their second language. So maybe if someone makes a fun synthetic language it can totally work!
Rust, obviously
As soon as spoken language is actually used by people who aren't laser focused on ensuring that they don't misuse words or relax pronunciations, the meanings of words will shift and accents will form. People will also invent slang, as people are naturally inclined to do, and some of that slang will stick around in common speech and be accepted as regular words.
Never change, SO, never change.
The plural forms of words in English, like "houses" for "house" and "mice" for "mouse," are the result of a complex history of the English language, which includes influences from many other languages and the way words were pronounced in the past.
Regular Plural Formation: The plural of "house" follows a regular pattern in modern English where we add an "-s" or "-es" to the end of most nouns to make them plural. This pattern is a simplified system that has become the standard in English.
Old English and Middle English: The plurals "mice" and "lice" come from Old English and Middle English times when the language had more complex rules for making nouns plural, often involving changing the vowel sound in the middle of the word. This type of change is known as "i-mutation" or "umlaut," which was a common grammatical feature in the Germanic languages that English descends from.
Irregular Plural Formation: Over time, as the language evolved, most of these complex forms were regularized to the simpler "-s" or "-es" ending, but some words, like "mouse" and "louse," retained their old plural forms. These are known as irregular plurals.
Standardization and Change: English has undergone significant standardization over the centuries, and the regular "-s" or "-es" ending has become the norm due to its simplicity and regularity. However, irregular forms persist due to historical usage and the conservative nature of language when it comes to frequently used words.
Thus, "houses" is a result of linguistic simplification and standardization, while "mice" and "lice" are remnants of older linguistic patterns that have been preserved in the language.
Whether or not its a correct answer, however...