Side Project: 1 Month, $10,000
blog.doddcaldwell.com
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Sorry to be negative. Again, the designs are very cute, but not "professional". My experience is limited to high-tech hiring.
I have very hard time imagining that the rock star developer I'm trying to hire will spend $100 (or hours of their time) to add fancy styling to their resume. Why would they? It just seems like trying too hard. Of course I won't reject anyone because their resume looks "too pretty", but those templates make the resume stand out, and not necessarily in a good way.
I have far more time for a plain text resume that fits on one side of A4/Legal, than I do for anything else.
It's all about how quick I can scan the document and extract information from it that might tell me what experience a candidate might have.
For me, the quickest way I can scan something is to have it feel like something I work with every day: logically laid out text, in fixed width, with related chunks fitting on the same screen.
Give me a plain text resume any day. If you deeply feel the need, add syntax highlighting in the form of very subtle highlights and lowlights to make the most pertinent sections and key facts stand out. But if you do that, bear in mind that such highlights and lowlights should be the minority of your document.
Do I practise what I preach? Yes: http://www.buro9.com/cv.txt
What is incredibly useful is understanding how those in a hiring organization read CVs, what they expect, and what they assume.
In terms of format: A lot of organisations, especially larger organisations for roles at more senior levels, output their internal candidate profiles, generated from internal systems, in landscape format. They will print a sent-in portrait document in portrait, but what is internally generated is often in landscape, with one left pane and one right pane. This spreads to computer-based viewing: Widescreen monitors are also becoming common place in offices, while laptop screens also tend towards a widescreen format. Why waste 2 large borders on each side of the page in default Word setup, Word being the default in large organisations.
I've never seen an externally sourced CV in landscape. Food for thought. Creative, or practical?
Also remember that eyesight tends to deteriorate with age. As an applicant, if the interviewer may be older, keep things legible.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Well, my resume's a bit out of date, but here's my linkedin.."
Also, if you are LinkedIn, you could do this.
I think they already do?
Unfortunately, I don't have the same talent for design.
from linked in: http://resume.linkedinlabs.com/
There is another service (3rd party) that does this, but I can't recall the URL...
All that said, I'm really appreciative of the suggestions that people have shared both here and by email. I've learned a great deal from commenters on HN in general (a few have inspired another venture I'm looking at starting...) and appreciate the community, even though it can get a little harsh!
It's also dirt cheap to live here compared to somewhere else. A 2-3 bedroom apartment for downtown in the heart of everything will run less than 2k if you find a good spot. Also access to CoWork is awesome like the OP was saying. You can find out more about Greenville here, http://thenextbig.co/. All this to say, if you want to kind of step out of the norm a bit and experience something different but not leaving great talent Greenville is an awesome place to be.
As an NYC resident who lives in Chelsea, I wept when I read this.
Also: the submission title implies the project earned $10k in a month, but I didn't see that in the blog post itself. Where did that number come from? Is it accurate?
In my experience clean/light CV's are by far the best for almost every job - particularly engineering jobs. The exception being designers.
What sort of CV's are you seeing come in?
I know quite a few HR types who will find a snazzy looking CV and instantly demote it, on the basis that the sizzle is probably hiding some inadequacy (this is not necessarily a bad marker in my experience).
It would be interesting to see if the investment in this pays off for the candidate - whether the really high quality of the design flips it over that danger marker.
This is also the stuff that gives job seekers nightmares. The whole process is already a black box and knowing that some (or all?) employers penalize resumes that are trying too hard just adds more noise to the many conflicting pieces of information candidates have to consider.
However; in my experience, certain things do automatically mark out a cv as a poor fit - one of which is "too flashy". This is born out of originally giving everyone a read/shot and finding the flashy ones were, every time, not so good.
I dont agree it is a black box btw; if you do a little googling the advice is fairly standard - keep it to 2 pages, keep it clean and readable, 12pt font.
The idea of fitting a standard model is a good one; making the recruiters life easy is a good thing, and a different looking CV can interrupt your workflow.
That said, some of these look really good. My favorites are the Stars and the Shearling Point options, both of which are just subtle enough for my tastes. Best of luck to Mr. Caldwell in his future endeavors.
Recruiters are often at-times swamped with thousands of resumes (and even more at big companies). They'll spend at most 5 minutes scanning your resume to see if you are a good fit.
Here's why: the fields that would see value in creative resumes like these are creativity driven fields - specifically graphic design, web development, visual design, print design, frontend, etc. Creative resumes can be valuable in these fields because they are a means to showcase relavent skills. If I'm applying for a job as a graphic designer, I would be stupid not to take advantage of the blank canvas that is a resume.
Concurrently, non design related fields likely do not see much value in a well designed resume, simply because it is unimportant and irrelevant. Yeah, the resume stands out from the pack, but surely this does not influence hiring decisions? Surely whoever is reading these resumes is not impressed by a bit of color and typography? Though I am probably being naive here - every little bit helps, especially when there are hundreds or thousands of other resumes to compete against.
So with that, if one assumes the highest demand for creative resumes is in creative fields, then this is like selling ice to eskimos. Designers can - and should - design their own creative resumes to market themselves.
But clearly I am wrong. So I wonder how well these resumes will convert? Somebody should A/B test and report back :)
By standing out, you show your potential employer that you cared enough to spent some time (or money) on trying to impress them.
My CV consistently receives praise. My secret? A standard Microsoft Word template that I have never seen anybody else use despite reviewing plenty of CVs myself :)
Well done.
Life has brought me into contact with many folks who have side projects, for many values of "side project" and many levels of success. "Raw talent" explains very little of their difference from other people.
Agree. Same reason why many pretty girls (or handsome men) aren't married but others with less obvious attributes are (and happily).
- The slider above-the-fold on the 'shop' tab distracts me from the rest of the page. It wasn't intuitive to me that I could scroll down to begin shopping.
- A simple filter would be a great addition to the 'shop' page. It'd be nice to filter by type (e.g business, creative, etc.), price or design (rustic, elegant)
- I wonder if you would see more sales if you tried a/b testing your pricing model a bit. Is there a reason why you charge the extra $5.00 for edits? If the shopper pays $99 to own the theme, shouldn't he be entitled to edit it as much as he pleases?
- You're looking for resume writers. Have you connected with Hagan Blount? I believe he designs Infographic resumes. (http://haganblount.com/resume). Some of your designs require users to highlight a quote, etc., and I wonder if they could use help writing out these areas.
- Any suggestions on how to make it intuitive to scroll down?
- We've thought about filtering but we've honestly seen no trends in which professions pick which designs - it's been all over the board.
- The shopper doesn't own the theme. Due to the copyright agreements that we have with the designers who created the resumes and the font foundries who created the typefaces, we aren't able to release the source files to be edited. Also, most folks don't have or can't use inDesign, which is what we use to typeset the resumes. We've tried to keep the price of edits low at $5 as a service to our customers because in early testing, we came across this as an objection. People need to revise their resumes or have different versions. We wanted to reduce friction there. We obviously don't make money on this but we just think it makes good business sense and is good customer service.
- We don't want to get into writing resumes. Instead, we'd rather partner with resume writers. They have a captive audience that's shown they're willing to pay for resume services. We'd rather get referrals from them than compete with them.
On the shop page: An anchor link that sits above-the-fold with a call-to-action like "start shopping" or "browse designs" would probably make it more intuitive. Anything that shows me a peak of what's below-the-fold would help.
Since the main slider occupies all of the above-the-fold real estate and has its own horizontal navigation, I just assumed I was 'done' with the page once I had scrolled through each slide.
1. How did you manage to get all these awesome resume templates?! That's fairly impressive for a one month project.. I could have had only one of them and I would be proud!
2. There's no talk about the 10,000$ in the blog.. where does it come from? Is it 100 sales? Is it less but with more urgent need (For instance, clicking "1 day" or "custom color").
3. About the process of converting the html template to a pdf.. how does it work and how good is it? For instance, is it a simple html->pdf which could give ugly conversion or end-of-page text to be displayed wrongly on the next page?
And as a suggestion, it'd be interesting to give a demo of the cv. For instance, I'd enter my data, it'd show me the resume but with a clear "Demo" written on each page of the pdf.. or something similar.
2) Yes, if you multiply the over 100 sales by our purchase price, we did over $10,000.
3) We don't convert html to PDF. Customers pick a resume design, upload their resume content (in Word or TXT or whatever,) and then we custom typeset it and send them a PDF as a digital file. Our graphic artists are great at making multiple pages look outstanding. There's also a revision process to make sure it pleases the customer.
4) The demos are really the designs you see on the site. Since all of our resumes are custom-typeset in inDesign by a graphic artist, we can't demo a customer's actual resume until we go through the entire process.
Right now, we send out 2 hi-resolution PDF files - 1 is for full bleed and 1 is for normal printouts on an office or home printer. That way the customer has the option of how they wan to print out the resume.
While in my case (Candy Japan) I'm not sure if the possible improvement in conversions would justify spending money on the design, I wonder if the side benefit of getting listed in CSS galleries would make it worth it.
From our standpoint, it helps out with getting some solid back links for SEO purposes in the beginning and also helps from a referral standpoint. We also just like seeing and spreading great design. We're kind of passionate about that. Some designers will send the link to their non-designer friends because they don't feel like doing it pro-bono for their friend and the money their friend can pay just isn't worth it to create something from scratch.
However, if you have a product or service whose direct customer is designers, then you might be able to get some conversions from the CSS galleries. Your's could be this case.
A snippet from the blog... --- “First, I stopped caring so much about little things like how 'professionally' a resume was formatted or whether the cover email had spelling mistakes. I realized that throwing people away because of a spelling mistakes was really another way of discarding half the resumés because you don’t want to work with unlucky people.”
“Wait,” said Oscar, “but surely all things being equal, the person who takes the time to get the email right is better than the person who doesn’t?”
“Sure,” agreed Ernestine, “But all other things aren’t equal. What if the email with the spelling mistake came from someone who’s really busy because they’re talented and have a lot to do in their current position?” ---
Best of luck, and your resumes look beautiful.
Any plans to code them and let people generate mini-sites from them? I could see that doing pretty well too.
In any case the service and site looks great, congratulations!
Your sales will jump from $10,000 to $100,000.
2. They find the app because it's cool to try and use. Websites are boring and obstruct. Apps generate huge traction way faster. The in-app payments are also easier for users, no credit card forms.
3. Smartphones outsell computers by 20% every day.
4. Once you find a way to make the interface great on a phone, you can deliver to tablets easily.
Build future now. Change the pain to fun.
You're more likely to be sitting in front of a word processor bleakly wondering how to prep it up - and go do some Googling for CV tips...
Apps are physical and cool. CVs should be fun to do. That's the future. Assuming that the desktop is a primary device for people in 2012 is just wrong. Also, CVs don't need to contain huge amounts of text; better keep it simple.
UI is just a matter of how much energy you put into it. It's not easy, but can be done. See iMovie, mobile bitmap editors, Garage Band... Difficult and unbelievable 5 years ago, but clearly doable.
If not phones, then at least tablets.
I do admit that I am a post-pc era freak though.
However, you're talking about a task (creating/updating a CV) that takes a lot of manual work and editing. It could certainly be automated to a large extent by grabbing existing information from LinkedIn or Facebook or wherever. But when you get down to the details, there's a lot to write. That will never be fun to do in an app.
I can't imagine people caring how "fun" a CV app/website is so long as it helps them get the resume updated and get a new job.
Look around, millions of people grab 1080p and cut on a pocket device. Not just that, much more.
I was suggesting to be creative and think ahead. I am biased, but I believe it would work great and bring revenue to the table fast.
My only concern with these types of resumes is that I've heard stuff like this can't be read by automated resume parsers used by some companies. I don't know how true that really is, does anyone know?
I would understand if they asked for one of the various specialized XML dialects out there (HR-XML, XMLResume etc), but in my (limited) experience, nobody does.
Most statistics show that 70% of jobs are found through personal networking, while 30% are found through career boards (like Monster.com.) We feel like we fit well with those 70%. However, even within the 30% of jobs that are found through career boards, most of those end in an email and an interview. We think a Loft Resume is a great way to stand out when job candidates do land that interview.
choosing a design for example: i think many people won't understand that you have to choose a design below the featured block.
a headline like "choose a design:" or something could increase your conversion rates i guess.
nice project btw. have fun, witti
May I suggest that you add more single column resumes. Having multiple columns and boxes etc. is something I associate with newsletters and magazine articles. If I was shopping, I probably wouldn't buy one like that.
Figure out away to demonstrate social proof that your resumes are giving job-seekers the edge they desperately need.
I'd be really interested to see how you phrased the emails you sent out to the bloggers to get them to write about you, and what your success rate was.
I think your designs are beautiful, and you're definitely fulfilling a need. I'll be sending a link to those who I know are looking for a job.
Good Luck.
Or is that just not enough for Catbert in the current economic climate?
Personally I suspect that his approach to the world of work will result in a hell of a lot more personal fulfillment for him throughout his life than any amount of sucking up to corporate toss will ever do.